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Obviously you don't read very well.


The same hour of flight time can be just an hour, or an hour of solid experience. It's up to you. If it's just hours, don't waste your time. Falsify your logbook. Lie. Make it up. It's worthless.


If you're going to fly the airplane, then make it an hour of experience, not simply an hour of time. There is a big difference.
 
D...I can't believe you ignored the 'call ya mutha' reply. I'm hurt.

Your favorite student.....ever


W
 
Avbug is right!

I think what Avbug is trying to say is that bumming around in a duchess/semenhole/anything while another instructor is sitting in the front with you, is just another number in the logbook. This kind of 'time' is good for building 'time' to put in your logbook, but is not good 'experience' to cut it in the real world. You're never going to get hard IFR, Ice, or any real challenging situation from renting a light twin. Flying around under the hood even if you're IFR (probly not IMC in FL) isnt going to make you an experienced pilot. CFII'ing with a student is not going to make you 'experienced' no matter how many practice approaches/holds/ground school sessions you get.

An 'experienced' pilot is someone who has done it for real, hundreds or thousands of times. Under adverse conditions. Under pressure. In real aircraft (not practice twins). In real, real bad Wx.

Chief Pilots and insurance companies and other real pilots know the difference. You can have all the semenhole time in the world putting around VMC (meteorogically speaking), but its not gonna make anyone think you are an 'experienced' pilot. It might help land you a job to become an experienced pilot, but you must understand it's just a number on your resume. That number can mean something; or it can mean nothing.

Like I said in a previous post, I think the only way to become a strong, confident pilot is to fly single pilot IFR. Freight, charter, anything but buying some numbers for your logbook will make you much, much better of a pilot and much more respected in the pilot community. Myself I would much rather be a well respected member of the pilot community than be referred to as the 'wonderstick' that landed a 121 job after 300hrs of Dual given and a degree from a fancy flight school.
 
Whatever

Hey barnyard....don't assume that all those with degrees from fancy flight schools and 300 hours dual given in a seminole are not respectable pilots. I personally have seen your "experienced pilots" that fly "real airplanes"....(funny I thought the seminole was real....and all this time it was a figment of my imagination)....with thousands of hours, single pilot, IFR...and they can't take me direct to friggin VOR....so don't be so quick to generalize and lump people into such a group. It takes quite a bit of time building just to get to the minimums needed to take your "respectable" flying freight, single pilot. ANY time you spend in the airplane with a good instructor...IMC, hood, VMC, whatever, is valuable time. Oh, and as far as going out looking for hard IFR, and ice...you have to be a serious moron to be looking for that.

What a shallow post.

W
 
I pahhhked my cah in Hahvahd Yahd.
I heard you were in the 242, that a good class enjoy it.
Have fun teachin the 'tards at the center.

D
GO PATS
 
Fly enough and you'll get all the 'experience' you need. Joyriding is a perfectly valid reason, if not the best reason, to go fly. I've probably learned as much out goofing off with my friends in a couple of SE GA airplanes as I did in any formal setting. We weren't exactly poster kids for AOPA but we sure had a lot of fun, didn't bend anything, and we learned a lot.
 
No names dude

Come on...its great you know someone in here...but no names unless you check with them first...sheesh.
 
Good to hear from ya!

Hope all is well D. Come back and visit if ya can. Good luck out there. Anything I can ever do....just hollah.
Oh yeah and.....
CALL YA MUTHAH.

W
 
Yeah No names.
I use this screen name on my numerous other chat rooms:

like the Nomah fan club
The I hate yankess fan club
Britney Spears club room

D
 
Oh, and as far as going out looking for hard IFR, and ice...you have to be a serious moron to be looking for that.

Some of us didn't have to look far. It was there when we got the job.

All I ever said was make the most of the time you fly. If you're going to go fly, make every moment of it count. Experience, vs. just building hours.

I find it unbelievable that anybody could be stupid enough to try to find an arguement with that. That one should strive to do the best one can with any undertaking, is purely basic. It's a minimum standard of action. Don't do something unless you're going to do your best. If you're going to fly for an hour, make it an hour of experience upon which the next hour can build. How hard is that to figure out, you bloody idiot?
 
Avbug...since the quote you took was from me...i'll assume I am the "bloody idiot" you are referring to. I didn't have any beef with what you said...I was replying to barn's generlization of flight school grads (wondersticks...as he says..lol) and that flying practice approaches under the hood with an instructor or giving ME instruction wasn't valuable time. I completely agree that the experience you "found" at your first job ie..hard IMC, ice, ect. is more challenging than just tooling around. I'll just reiterate that ANY time you spend flying is...particularly ME time...is valuable...some time is more challenging than others. Oh..and just so you know...I moonlight as a part time genius...so the bloody idiot thing just doesn't wash...lol. Peace.

W
 
Bump to the front for someone looking for the same info.


ALL YOU U OF I GUYS GET READY. I will be back in town in about a week lets tear some **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** up.

Dubya I need your contact info i have to ask you an important question

D
 
BobSmith_av8r,

I think avbug probably has more experience and time in the lav itself than you have total time, you have a ways to go kiddo before you have the credentials to go toe to toe with him. Save yourself the embarrassment... I would take avbug's experience and advice before I would ever even comtemplate yours, pretty much a no-brainer.


Shotty equipment, single pilot, hard imc, etc, is experience that can not be found by "renting" the aircraft out and going "joyriding"..


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