Moving the IAD flying to ORD?

[El Jefe]

We've had multiple airplanes go down in ORD with only a single mechanic.

And that mechanic is leaving ASA.

 

[spudskier]

And that mechanic is leaving ASA.

He's already gone, which sucks because he worked his @$$ off and was incredibly effective for what he had to work with... the three that are up there now: well, one is brand new and working hard but the day we broke had no manuals (computer glitch, go figure) and few parts to work with, second one knew what he was doing but stretched thin, and the third one was totally useless (and no, he wasn't new... just clueless)

 

[www.]

Wow, you're brilliant!!!

Let me guess, you're management now?

Nah, I enjoy my life away from work and poking fun at pilots like you.

 

[dojetdriver]

Nah, I enjoy my life away from work and poking fun at pilots like you.

Cool, "good on ya" as they say. But when you said this;

You've been through 3 groups. Erion, during George and John, would of had you eating her undies.. Ask anyone that has been here before 1998 and they will tell you that the original owners were hands down the worst.

implies you're still "here", but then you said this;

You know, I use to be a pilot just like you years ago.

So tell us Jedi Master, what EXACTLY is it that you do "here" at ASA, part of SkyWest holdings that no longer entails you "use to be a pilot"?

 

[JumpersAway]

Regardless of reason- this once fine company has turned into a rudderless ship, and it seems to have no direction. It seems as though it is destined to roll mercilessly in a pitching sea, until it finally ends up on a rock.........

 

[Freebrd]

a rudderless ship, and it seems to have no direction. .....

they call it inept management

 

[JumpersAway]

For the first time in my career at ASA, I've found myself looking at all the lifers and thinking to myself "you have no clue what is coming". Many of them are here because they can't move on financially, or they don't want to give up their QOL. In the end, they will end up losing both- this place appears to be getting weaker and weaker, and the prospects are dark. If something drastic isn't done to stem the tide, we are history. Regardless of longevity, seniority, or position, we're all headed for the house of pain.

 

[BillJBrake]

Yeah, but despite being a rudderless ship, it'd be nice if mgmt can finally pick a new domicile and STICK WITH IT! I think ORD is a great choice though, I'd imagine we might even be able to pick up more UAX flying down the line, as I'm sure Delta will want less 50seaters in the future, we can move those planes to UAX flying out of ORD. I just hope the March date for opening ORD/closing IAD is the latest, and it possibly happens sooner!

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Expressjet has a base in ORD. Why would this company (whatever the F it's called) move ASA to ORD, and Express to IAD? We're both covering both bases. Someone needs to cover IAD so having noone based there makes zero sense. But then again, this is FI.

 

[spudskier]

Expressjet has a base in ORD. Why would this company (whatever the F it's called) move ASA to ORD, and Express to IAD? We're both covering both bases. Someone needs to cover IAD so having noone based there makes zero sense. But then again, this is FI.

What MIGHT make sense... is do give all the flying that ASA is doing in ORD to XJT and some if not most of the flying XJT is doing in IAD to ASA. Sort of an even swap, so ALL of ASA's CRJs are in IAD and most of XJT's ERJs are in ORD... less deadheading, stucks at an out station, etc... Trust me, I'd like an ORD base too but this kind of makes sense.

 

[enuffalready]

For the first time in my career at ASA, I've found myself looking at all the lifers and thinking to myself "you have no clue what is coming". Many of them are here because they can't move on financially, or they don't want to give up their QOL. In the end, they will end up losing both- this place appears to be getting weaker and weaker, and the prospects are dark. If something drastic isn't done to stem the tide, we are history. Regardless of longevity, seniority, or position, we're all headed for the house of pain.

i agree with everything above... problem is where and what to do? Do you realize a senior 88 or 757 capt make $150k ( unless they work themselves to death and are never home).. and a 10 yr FO makes $100k. and that comes with the pleasure of commuting to MSP or DTW or jfk and spending the next 10 years working holidays and weekends...

call me a lifer, but that just aint worth it. I can stay here in the ATL.. have a side job and be home...flame away

 

[Jetjockey]

i agree with everything above... problem is where and what to do? Do you realize a senior 88 or 757 capt make $150k ( unless they work themselves to death and are never home).. and a 10 yr FO makes $100k. and that comes with the pleasure of commuting to MSP or DTW or jfk and spending the next 10 years working holidays and weekends...

call me a lifer, but that just aint worth it. I can stay here in the ATL.. have a side job and be home...flame away

Your numbers are a bit off. A 757 Capt. at CAL makes much more than $150,000. More like $168,000 without even trying. That's just flying the guarantee. DAL, and AA are even better.

Almost every legacy airline FO breaks $100,000 in year 5 or less, so 10 years in another exaggeration. I know FO's at CAL that are holding weekends at holidays off around the 5-6 year seniority range so it depends on what stage of the hiring wave you got hired.

Not all of us commute, and the schedules at the legacy airlines blows away a regional airline schedule. Most pilots I know have another gig, or source of income on the side.

Your arguments don't really hold water, but if it helps you cope with your decision to make a career at the regional level, then go with that.

 

[titans10]

i agree with everything above... problem is where and what to do? Do you realize a senior 88 or 757 capt make $150k ( unless they work themselves to death and are never home).. and a 10 yr FO makes $100k. and that comes with the pleasure of commuting to MSP or DTW or jfk and spending the next 10 years working holidays and weekends...

call me a lifer, but that just aint worth it. I can stay here in the ATL.. have a side job and be home...flame away

What happens if Delta moves your flying to another DCI? Not saying it is going to happen. You never know in this business.

 

[On Your Six]

i agree with everything above... problem is where and what to do? Do you realize a senior 88 or 757 capt make $150k ( unless they work themselves to death and are never home).. and a 10 yr FO makes $100k. and that comes with the pleasure of commuting to MSP or DTW or jfk and spending the next 10 years working holidays and weekends...

call me a lifer, but that just aint worth it. I can stay here in the ATL.. have a side job and be home...flame away

There has been tremendous stagnation since 9-11, starting with furloughs (I was one), then airline BK's, and then age 65 for retirement. Those are the reasons you are jaded. But, now the retirements will start coming back (5 years later), airlines are more profitable (thanks to things like bag fees), and new fatigue rules combined with hiring standards will start turning things around. RJ's have lost their luster due to higher gas and more expensive labor than normal (more pilots staying due to hiring stagnation--more longevity). Those new fatigue rules will hurt airlines with multiple landings per day, and shorter layovers (like continuous duty overnights).

So what does that all mean? Don't miss the next train out of town when big time hiring returns, or you will continue to watch your sector shrink, and your lifer status become more irrelevant. Don't miss it!


Godspeed!


OYS

 

[Nevets]

I would not count on express or asa keeping any of their ual flying long term. Smisek isnt like tilton he actually cares about performance...

bwahahahahahaha He doesn't care about performance. He cares about the bottom line! Are you new to Smisek?