netjetwife
1 of many w/an opinion
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Please be careful here, NJW... you really should be made aware of all the truths in this situation. Rotello, I am trying carefully to follow what is happening in the industry. It would be easier if the furloughed pilots from the different fracs posted their furlough package, current status, etc in one thread so we can all become better informed.
FACTS:
1. Yes, ...did come late in the day on a Friday with little detail. ...This is the news that Rigger posted. In this thread, but I was drawing from info I gathered last month on the "Video from CNBC" thread where Rigger was discussing his experience/insight as a furloughed CS pilot. He posted then...
And last but not least when you got your "furlough letter" no where in the letter did it state that your were furloughed! It did state ELIMINATE your position, upon your TERMINATION and hope to offer re-employment in the future, in fairness it did referance the FSH that details how furloughs are done but this document can be/has been and I am sure will be again changed at will. So I will ask here if you got this letter would you think you are furloughed or FIRED???
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=123379&highlight=rigger&page=8
2. Per printed company policy, all furloughed pilots have unlimited length recall rights. Sure, it's not a CBA, .... Furlughing a pilot is ... a reflection of the dire economic situation ... I agree that the economy is to blame and that sometimes furloughs may be necessary, but it must be noted that Rigger is quite concerned over the lack of a binding guarantee to recall rights. No doubt because he is now in the position of having to rely on a company policy that can be changed at will. He made readers very aware of that truth...
.... The fact is we are hoping they will do the right thing.... (I really believe they will) BUT WHAT IF THEY DONT WHAT IS STOPPING THEM?????? NetJets knows the right thing will be done no matter what because they have a great big contract with penalties and stuff all laid out in it, It's great incentive....to always do the right thing!!! and this is a HUGE difference!!!!!
I don't believe Shares will back out of what they say but It is written in a way as to allow themselves that out.....If you have nothing but honorable intentions then why not spell it out! My last furlough letter spells it all out, How it works, when it will work, how long it will work for, etc. Nothing to hide nothing to hide behind. This one not so much!!! Only difference one was Union shop one was not.....
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=123379&highlight=rigger&page=9
rotello
I agree with Rigger's posts but thought it more appropriate to quote him as the source of information responsible--in part--for my opinion. But even had I not exchanged posts with him, I would still be worried (as I've posted in the past) for the CS pilots because you don't have a CBA that ensures you have rights. Likewise, having your interests represented and a communication channel that remains open if you are furloughed are valuable advantages that shouldn't be casually dismissed. That's a fact that Rigger described from a personal perspective...
But going through this if I had my choice I would much rather have had the opportunity to have some control over my life, I would love to know today if I will be one of the chosen one that will be offered RE-EMPLOYMENT?? ... I would love to be able to tell my kids and my wife that no matter what happens, I will have a position back at the company and we won't have to start once again at the bottom of some seniority list.... but none of the above I can do because there is no plan, there is no communication (CS cut off our log in and our E mail) from the company, and we have no one speaking for us in or out of the company!
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=123379&highlight=rigger&page=8
When it comes down to it, company policy is just a non-binding goal pilots hope management will meet. I wouldn't want my family to be in that situation and I wish that the CS families had the peace of mind the NJ families get from having a contract. In these worrisome times it helps a lot. NJW