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okay here we go...another airline trying to $crew its people....We need magnt. to realize they are not running a "regional" airline any more. The pilots are flying with the mesa and xjt alot long flights for the "big guys"...the world has changed and they cannot (mangt.) realize pilots are no longer going to take erj pay flying 737 pax....I say strike if needed ....maybe mangt will get the picture
 
yes....we are now flying 737 passengers...I think the WHOLE industry needs to wake up and realize things are different...not just the regionals management. I think it is the MAJORS that need to wake up and realize that they will not be able to glum off of the regionals anymore. This industry has not seen the end to its turmoils. The "succesful" regionals have been succesful due to outdated labor and majors contracts.

This strike is entering new ground in the airline industry...someone is going to lose big...whether it be the pilot group at first, or the whole company on the back end. And now fault to the pilots or to the management...but more to the crooked industry on a whole (the majors and the games they play).
 
I will never forgive the Freedom Air Fvcks for the box they have put us all in. The Mesa "pilots" were no help either.

Stay strong MESABA & COEX! You have a chance to hold the line Comair, Horizon, and Chataq. pilots drew.
 
Maybe those "airport managers and community leaders" need to be educated on the issues. Perhaps then instead of cooking up pie-in-the-sky ideas of another airline they could lobby Mesaba management to deal fairly and equitably with their employees. Just a thought.
 
Maybe those "airport managers and community leaders" need to be educated on the issues.

I hear this the buzzphrase "education" used alot where it is not appropriate. The politicians and airports managers don't need educating because regardless of the circumstances, they don't give a rats *ss about how Mesaba compensates its employees. All they care about is getting service to their airport CHEAP and OFTEN, and preferably subsidised by someone else. I have no doubt that they'd think migrate labor from eastern europe would be just fine flying Mesaba aircraft, as long as it fit their purposes.

Don't kid yourself, NOBODY including the politicians and public cares about airline workers. If there's a strike, who do you think is going to take the blame? . . . . it sure isn't the company. It's going to be those greedy pilots wanting to make more than MSP bus drivers do.

Hang tough Mesaba pilots. You can count on most of yourselves, but not the public or politicians, Democrats or Republicans, nor your supposed brethern in the industry. It's up to you alone.

At least IMHO.
 
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2nd time I heard this idea...first time published...

...let's just say there will be some "airline expertise" from experienced individuals behind the plan...I know no more.
 
I think the greatest part of the article is where they say Pinnacle will cover our flying. They're in for a surprise... right 9E guys and girls?

The Pinnacle (9E) boys and girls - WILL NOT FLY MESABA STRUCK WORK. PERIOD!!!!! Enough said
 
I suppose that the airport managers et al are going to walk into Wal Mart and pick up an operating certificate; last I checked they were in household goods next to dust-mops. Then they need to swing by Barnes and Noble and pick up a copy of "Airline Certification for Dummies" (authored by Frank Lorenzo BTW) which has a new CD-ROM guide to proving runs. I guess they can lease the aircraft from NWA/Mesaba but wouldn't it be tacky to keep the same red paint? If you're going to start your own airline are you not entitled to paint the aircraft any way you like???

I think they can do it. It beats lobbying their business associate (XJ) to stand straight and do the right thing.

There is shoveling horses*!t and then there is using a bulldozer. I think I smell diesel exhaust!!!!!!!!!!
 
I'm shooting from the hip because I don't know the Mesaba service area that well but I'll go out on a limb and say that there probably isn't enough traffic to support a competing "regional" airline. Also any new airline would need a codeshare to seamlessly link pasengers from those small towns like Hibbard to the aviation infrastructure. So those politicians and airport managers are pretty much nuts. Still I think that someone, preferably from the Mesaba MEC should attempt some dialogue with those people. It wouldn't hurt. I agree that they probably don't care much about the pilots however if they were convinced that the best (and only) way to sustain service to the smaller MN communities was a peaceful resolution to the current contract dispute they might be inclined to support the pilots.
I wish the Mesaba pilots the best and hope that a last minute deal come together granting them competive compensation and work rules.
 
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