Midwest Airlines

[bluejuice787]

Does anyone know where I can find info for an interview with Midwest Airlines? I tried Airline Pilot central but did not find any interview info (what to expect in the interview). I have a friend that says he has an interview there next week.

Thanks

 

[jumppilot03]

I am surprised that they are interviewing. I was told yesterday that all of the newhires currently in class were furloughed, and that they were parking 3 MD-81's. Did anyone else hear this?

 

[SeaLord]

Midwest is parking three 80's but still taking the remaining five 717's. I doubt any furloughs for now, but hiring will be grinding to a halt soon. They told me they wanted 40 more pilots before spring last month, and that was before they interviewed another 15-20 pilots and announced the parking of those planes. Oh, and upgrade is currently at 8 years.

 

[Chuck Yogourt]

Midwest is parking three 80's but still taking the remaining five 717's. I doubt any furloughs for now, but hiring will be grinding to a halt soon. They told me they wanted 40 more pilots before spring last month, and that was before they interviewed another 15-20 pilots and announced the parking of those planes. Oh, and upgrade is currently at 8 years.

Not true. VP says that was being considered to test the market on selling those aircraft but idea was scrapped. It's back to plan A.

 

[Ty Webb]

Maybe they decided to burn the furniture instead, Chuckie.

 

[248to2.8]

Midwest fleet change

YX Fleet change e-mail

To: All Midwest and Skyway Airlines Employees
Date: September 21, 2005
From: Scott Dickson
Subject: Upcoming Fleet Change

As part of our ongoing efforts to operate as efficiently and
productively
as possible, we are planning a change to our MD-80 fleet.

Beginning in mid-December, we will be removing our three MD-81
aircraft --
which are configured for Signature Service with 116 seats -- from
scheduled
service. We will be retaining one of the MD-81s as a system spare and
have
yet to decide the future of the other two. With fuel prices at
near-record
high levels, these aircraft are the least fuel-efficient in our
fleet,
based on the number of seats they carry.

To replace the flying done by the MD-80s, we will be using the new
Boeing
717 aircraft that we will receive in December and the 717 available
due to
our suspension of service to New Orleans. This will result in
several
scheduling changes, including:
Transitioning all Midwest Airlines service between Milwaukee and
the
East Coast to Boeing 717 aircraft.
Changing our San Francisco service from Signature to Saver
Service,
including San Francisco-Kansas City and the continuing
same-plane
service to Milwaukee. This move also introduces Saver Service to
Kansas
City.
Our Boeing 717s burn about 350 gallons less fuel per hour than the
MD-81s,
making them a more fuel-efficient choice. Additionally, the MD-81s are
much
more maintenance-intensive than the 717s. We expect the switch will
save
several million dollars annually.

Although the transition to smaller aircraft on some routes will result
in a
slight overall capacity reduction, we are pleased to be able to
maintain
our presence and frequency in all of our current markets. We also
expect to
benefit from an improved ability to yield manage seats on those routes.

Please note that this decision does not impact the eight MD-82 and
MD-88
aircraft in our fleet, which are Saver Service aircraft with 143 or
147
seats. With more seats, per-seat fuel use on those aircraft is
at an
acceptable level.

 

[Chuck Yogourt]

I stand corrected. My conversation was last week.

 

[Propsync]

We wouldn't have capacity reduction if we had 116 seats in the 717, which is kind of what they're supposed to have anyway. Imagine the yield on a 116 seat 717 vs. an 88 seat 717. What the #ell are they doing?

 

[Ty Webb]

What the #ell are they doing?

It actually could be 117 seats. As to what they are doing . . . . well, I would call it "pursuing a failed business model to the bitter end".

 

[WillFlyFoCookie]

Amen to that Propsync!

More seats on a 717 would be a smart move don't you think? When Skyway's 1900s are gone in a few years maybe they can take those leather seats and put them in 2 by 3 seating on the 717. Lord knows the Beechs will be beginning their 2nd life hauling freight then anyway.

Will the Boeing machinist strike screw up the deliveries of the remaining 5 717s? I heard not very long ago the Midwest had agreed to an "accelerated schedule" with Boeing to get all those remaining five by next Spring or something.

I'm still the eternal optimist that Midwest on a whole is trying to grow to some degree despite parking a few gas guzzling 80s. There does seem to be slow expansion out of Kansas City. The Skyway people at Pittsburg keep hearing from the company that they'll be getting 717s 7 days a week from MCI starting in Nov.

 

[jumppilot03]

I ran into a former syx guy at my company and he said that the newhires at medex had been furloughed. Any truth to this?

 

[metroplex]

NOT TRUE. All these rumors are crap.4 new hires in OCT/05 and 6 more in NOV/05, then more in 2006.The new marketing chief seems pretty good and I just love it when people know more about this airline( and do not work there) , than the employees, not to mention they know how to run an airline.pilots that go to Midex (not medex....) mostly live in MKE and do not want to commute or move. so what is a 8 yr. upgrade? They stay until retirement, and the current contract is a concessionary contract that hopefully will improve.As to Midwest Airlines finacial situation they just switched from NYSE to AMEX.The reason for being accepted is the following.

"The panel also said that mitigating factors warrant listing Midwest Air Group under the Alternative Listing Standards. Specifically, the panel noted:

-- Midwest Air Group's long, profitable history of operation prior to the last few years due to impact of historically high fuel price prices and other cost pressures on the airline industry; -- Midwest Air Group's relatively strong balance sheet for its industry, including its current cash balance; and -- The fact that Midwest Air Group significantly exceeded certain of the initial listing standards -- including stockholders equity, market value of public float and distribution."

 

[Chuck Yogourt]

It actually could be 117 seats. As to what they are doing . . . . well, I would call it "pursuing a failed business model to the bitter end".

You mean that is worse than hiring scabs? Stick to what you know best little boy. You are a Midwest Reject and you can't get over that. Stay with your scabs and enjoy flying for the company once known as Value Jet. Freaking "Critter".

 

[Vwipe]

Hey Yoplay

You better take a good look at the MedEx pilot list. Oooh. got a few scabs on it too don't ya!!!!!

 

[Ty Webb]

You mean that is worse than hiring scabs? Stick to what you know best little boy. You are a Midwest Reject and you can't get over that. Stay with your scabs and enjoy flying for the company once known as Value Jet. Freaking "Critter".

Chuckles . . . you must have the most severe case of E.D. since Bob Dole. Get some meds.

I do enjoy flying for AirTran . . . very much. What's not to like? New planes, great people, decent pay. Expanding, growing, and with $350 mil cash on hand, we're doing OK. We're hiring like crazy, which means we have guys making Captain in 2.5 years . . .

I know it would be a real departure from your usual pathological bitching, whining and crying jags, but why don;t you try to tell us what you like about flying for Midex, other than the fact that they haven't canned you yet?

C'mon, Chuckie . . . tell us . . . we're all waiting.

 

[devine9driver]

I think he like's flying for Midex because you (Ty) don't work there. That would be reason enough.

 

[Ty Webb]

Between the two of you, neither of you can come up with anything that makes Midex a good place to work . . .

Man, that must be a fun cockpit . . . . ! What's your motto? "We're not happy until you're not happy?" . . . pretty tough way to go through life, Sporto.

 

[HowlinMadMurdoc]

Between the two of you, neither of you can come up with anything that makes Midex a good place to work . . .

Man, that must be a fun cockpit . . . . ! What's your motto? "We're not happy until you're not happy?" . . . pretty tough way to go through life, Sporto.

For those of us living in MKE, Midwest/Skyway is a good place to work - no commute and a small company environment where we aren't just a "number". Every airline has their problems, AirTran and Midwest included. Ty, with all due respect, you're old enough to appreciate that sentiment and to even know better. AirTran isn't any better than Midwest or vice-versa. We each service our own market niche.

I don't know if decisions made in the Cookie Palace are correct and it's way above my paygrade. I can't do anything about questionable decisions made by management. What I can do is come to work, do my job to the best of my abilities, get along with my crew, operate the plane in accordance to company policies/procedures, try not bending anything, treat passengers as best as possible, collect my paycheck, and then go home.

Ty, again with all due respect, you appear to have a grudge against Midwest for reasons I'm confident you feel are justified. How about you worry about what occurs at AirTran and those of us in the Midwest Group will worry about our company?

Be a professional and wish us the best because my fellow compadres and I are wishing the same for YOU and your compadres.

HMM

 

[Ty Webb]

Be a professional and wish us the best because my fellow compadres and I are wishing the same for YOU and your compadres.

HMM

Well, judging by the posts made by Chuck Yougurt, not all your compadres feel that way. Hardly a week goes by that he's not on this board saying something nasty about AirTran, or about me (or at least my screen personna).

Here's a little sample:

KC and VALUE JET. What comparison is this GAY BOY? Shut the hell up and get a life. The question of this thread is, Would you work for Midwest? If it comes down between KC and Value Jet, I'd take KC any day. MORON. Now get back to class.

And here's another one:

make no bones about it. I hate NWA and love the strife going on there. What goes around comes around. Get ready to replay Eastern Airlines.

Personally, I don't care what happens to Midex, as long as we don't end up on the same seniority list. I do think that if Chuckie Boy is really on your seniority list that you guys ought to hold him down and give him a freaking laxative, because Gramps is apparently "not regular" enough, and it's making him cranky enough to make a spectacle of himself.

 

[73-Driver]

Does anyone know where I can find info for an interview with Midwest Airlines? I tried Airline Pilot central but did not find any interview info (what to expect in the interview). I have a friend that says he has an interview there next week.

Thanks

Here we go again! Another Midwest post hijacked by TY and Chuckles, can't you to lovers just kiss and make up already?

Blue Juices to answer your question, there was one post just recently added to www.aviationinterviews.com

There might be some Skyway guys and gals that may be willing to PM you with more details? Good luck!

 

[1IDBLKJEW]

Hey Maaan,

Ole One Eye Sammy-D here, with some good word of advice to the mudslingers here on this thread.

This same thing happens everytime 2 guys cant get along or a thread gets outta hand. people start slinging general insults against the others airline, which is then misconstrued as the general belief of their respective pilot groups.

KNOCK THAT S#!T OFF!!!!!!!!! Goood GOD I am so sick of the whole "AIRTRAN IS JUST A BUNCH OF VALUE JET SCABS" Crap, and all of the my airline is better than yours crap.

I am also amazed that a lotta this crap is tossed around by senior guys. Imagine that.............

I saw it at ATA now here it is again here at Midex. Some people are still keeping their options open in their career and dont need this pilot group stereo-typing bull-S#!t.

Deal with the fact that everyone in this industry is a C hair away from getting Butt-slammed, without lube. I dont care who you work for right now.... Whether its SWA, Airtran, or little ol Midex.

I gotta go now. Ole Blue eyes just woke up from his dirt nap and we gotta poker game to play.

 

[Chuck Yogourt]

Well, judging by the posts made by Chuck Yougurt, not all your compadres feel that way. Hardly a week goes by that he's not on this board saying something nasty about AirTran, or about me (or at least my screen personna).

Here's a little sample:



And here's another one:


Personally, I don't care what happens to Midex, as long as we don't end up on the same seniority list. I do think that if Chuckie Boy is really on your seniority list that you guys ought to hold him down and give him a freaking laxative, because Gramps is apparently "not regular" enough, and it's making him cranky enough to make a spectacle of himself.

God you are so predictable. Quit your crying. Just about everywhere I post you come along and make an adolecent statement. You have a problem with my company because YOU WERE NOT HIRED BY MIDWEST and you can't get over that. You are a freak and quit worrying about me and my company and get a life you fu##ing loser.

 

[Ty Webb]

Newsflash to Yogurt:

I really don't give two sheets about Midwest. I interviewed there almost 5 years ago, and was hired by AirTran a short time thereafter. Water under the bridge, and it worked out to my advantage.

Just try to remember three things, Chuckie Boy:

"Clear right" . . . . "you're right" . . . . and "I'll take the fat one" because I have a feeling you're going to be swinging someone's gear here shortly . . .

 

[Mooseflyer]

You two PLEASE give it a rest for Chrissakes!!

 

[Chuck Yogourt]

Newsflash to Yogurt:

I really don't give two sheets about Midwest. I interviewed there almost 5 years ago, and was hired by AirTran a short time thereafter. Water under the bridge, and it worked out to my advantage.

Just try to remember three things, Chuckie Boy:

"Clear right" . . . . "you're right" . . . . and "I'll take the fat one" because I have a feeling you're going to be swinging someone's gear here shortly . . .

You have to be the dumbest idiot on this forum. Without a doubt. If you don't care about Midwest, why do you keep posting about us you freaking retard? Heaven help us you are a moronic idiot. Do us a favor and go pull the corn cob out of your A## and get over it.

 

[Ty Webb]

Hey, Chuckie:

Your grammar and spelling suck, and so do you.

In fact, I hear from some of your flight attendants that you are known to be a genuine limp-wristed, pillow-biting, hamster-hiding nancy-boy.

Heh-heh, I figured as much. Don't worry . . . . when you're my FO, I won't humiliate you in public for being an old queen.

 

[Chuck Yogourt]

Hey, Chuckie:

Your grammar and spelling suck, and so do you.

In fact, I hear from some of your flight attendants that you are known to be a genuine limp-wristed, pillow-biting, hamster-hiding nancy-boy.

Heh-heh, I figured as much. Don't worry . . . . when you're my FO, I won't humiliate you in public for being an old queen.

Limp wristed? Have you looked at your avator? Do you actually think things out before you post or do you just blow it out your butt?

 

[Ty Webb]

Yawn.

 

[bestpilot]

You have to be the dumbest idiot on this forum. Without a doubt. If you don't care about Midwest, why do you keep posting about us you freaking retard? Heaven help us you are a moronic idiot. Do us a favor and go pull the corn cob out of your A## and get over it.

Naw, Duuude, Ty guy aint da dummest Dude on dat ole flightinfo. Cmon now Silly Rabbit, I gots to be da dummest idiot.

Most like bitter dude award be goin to maybe you, Yogurt dude.

I gots to know how you be knowin Ty Guy gots a corn cob in da back door? Maybe you gots to spend less time wit your head lookin at Ty Guys backside, Duuude, dats kinda freakie wierd bad kharma. Tell ole Siggy Froyed about dat stuff too, abouts your Edipus Webb Complex---Silly Rabbit, you gots to get some help, dude.

 

[Chuck Yogourt]

Naw, Duuude, Ty guy aint da dummest Dude on dat ole flightinfo. Cmon now Silly Rabbit, I gots to be da dummest idiot.

Most like bitter dude award be goin to maybe you, Yogurt dude.

I gots to know how you be knowin Ty Guy gots a corn cob in da back door? Maybe you gots to spend less time wit your head lookin at Ty Guys backside, Duuude, dats kinda freakie wierd bad kharma. Tell ole Siggy Froyed about dat stuff too, abouts your Edipus Webb Complex---Silly Rabbit, you gots to get some help, dude.

I have noticed that this clown posts whenever Ty boy needs help.
The conclusion is Ty and this Clown are the same. Give it a rest Ty boy and go fly your greyhound.