Mica trying to fast-track Age 65 - 12/6/07

[fly4surf]

They have got the money NOW to buy off worthless people in office.

And I'm undecided for the 60 rule.

Try fixing health care, war, environment, or something that really matters. I can sit right seat for 5 more years. I'd love to in a country where you couldn't buy the govt.

 

[momalley81]

Discrimination is discrimination, plain and simple, no matter how you try and spin it to make yourself feel better. If you support age 60, then you are no better than those that supported discrimation in the past.

Why are you against the Age 60 retirement law, but at the same time you are FOR increasing the retirement age to 65?

All you are doing is trading one arbitrary retirement age for another. Using the information you have provided Age 65 is just as much Age discrimination as Age 60 is.

Kinda hypocritical, don't ya think?

 

[Tejas-Jet]

I've sent my message too...for passage

 

[Dumb Pilot]

If you agree or not is irrelevant, the rest of the world has or will put age 65 into effect because of the impending pilot shortage in the next 10-15 years. Stop whining and get over it already, you can pull a thousand studies out of thin air and it will still be implemented because it makes economical sense and money has more power than your whining. Get a life

 

[Falconjet]

Anybody else notice the date on that article?

Looks like old news.

FJ

 

[Nindiri]

Some of you people whining about the health of 60 year old pilots scare me. Are you so insecure with your professional abilities that you can't fly an airplane without the captain holding your hand? If the captain vapor locks, just land the airplane.

 

[1st Rate]

Message sent loud and clear!

 

[FoxHunter]

Anybody else notice the date on that article?

Looks like old news.

FJ

Do you know how to read the date?

Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure Republicans : Press Release :: Mica Calls for Action on Pilots’ Retirement Age

 

[NoCompromise]

Does anyone know what the current status of the age 65 bill is? The SWA PD told me today that it's supposed to potentially be approved on Dec 12th and go into effect immediately. Where is the best place to find updated info on it?

 

[XJTAv8r]

Anybody else notice the date on that article?

Looks like old news.

FJ

I believe the date is in the European format, day-month-year.

 

[XJTAv8r]

Does anyone know what the current status of the age 65 bill is? The SWA PD told me today that it's supposed to potentially be approved on Dec 12th and go into effect immediately. Where is the best place to find updated info on it?

Here's the status of the stand-alone bills:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-1125
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-65

I don't know if they're going to try to push those two through or start from scratch.

P.S.
Here's the status of the appropriations bill that Age 65 is currently attached to:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-3074

 

[Flopgut]

Pure supply and demand could be great for the profession in this case. However, factor in a bunch of neo-scab, seniority aggressionists and we might all miss out, again.

Netjets seems to have answered the need for good recruits with a soon-to-be 70k/yr new hire salary that includes FREE health care. Heard a ready-to-retire CAL guy the other day refer to this as "totally unacceptable" while insisting retirement age should change immediately.

WTF OVER??!! Our CAL new hires won't make that for 3 years.

Not only that, this ignorant louse probably couldn't even get hired there, or anywhere else. BUT, change the retirement age?? Then he's OK...he can just keep on puttin in time.

 

[PCL_128]

If you agree or not is irrelevant, the rest of the world has or will put age 65 into effect because of the impending pilot shortage in the next 10-15 years. Stop whining and get over it already, you can pull a thousand studies out of thin air and it will still be implemented because it makes economical sense and money has more power than your whining. Get a life

I really don't care what the rest of the world does. They can have gramps fly their 777s until he drops dead at 94 for all I care, but I'll fight to the very end to keep the age limit here.

 

[jonjuan]

but I'll fight to the very end to keep the age limit here.

How do you plan to fight to the very end???

 

[PCL_128]

How do you plan to fight to the very end???

Doing what little we can still do: pester my Congressman's/Senators' offices with phone calls and emails, let union leaders know why this rule needs to stay in place, write letters to the editor when newspapers feature stories on this, etc... It may not do any good, but at least we'll go down in a fight.

 

[Thedude]

Some of you people whining about the health of 60 year old pilots scare me. Are you so insecure with your professional abilities that you can't fly an airplane without the captain holding your hand? If the captain vapor locks, just land the airplane.

Cause its all about money. They have had their time on the great airline carousel now its time to go and let another rider have their turn.

I shouldn't have to hold the Capts hand because he hasn't had his afternoon nappie.

 

[Thedude]

If you agree or not is irrelevant, the rest of the world has or will put age 65 into effect because of the impending pilot shortage in the next 10-15 years.

What pilot shortage? You mean the one where guys/gals won't work for peanuts.

 

[xcrjdriver]

Why are you against the Age 60 retirement law, but at the same time you are FOR increasing the retirement age to 65?

All you are doing is trading one arbitrary retirement age for another. Using the information you have provided Age 65 is just as much Age discrimination as Age 60 is.

Kinda hypocritical, don't ya think?

After reading 4 pages of posts seems like you and I are the only ones that see this change is still discrimination.

 

[Zdriver]

maby this is why the people dept thinks it's the 12th

With work on the reauthorization for the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) still unfinished, Congress last week passed a "Continuing Resolution" bill extending the current FAA authorization through December 14. By that date, Congress must either pass a new FAA reauthorization bill, or extend the current FAA bill again.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

It's so sad watching these old geezers losing their dignity grasping at straws like this right before they retire.

It is also sad that they have nothing else to look forward to other than more of the same old same old. Retirement should be spent with grandkids.

Plus, I do not want to be flying with a guy that wears Depends undergarments. Imagine how that cockpit will smell with a 65 year old geezer up there!

Yeah, but thankfully you won't have to worry about all that. You'll have the luxury of spending the rest of your career babysitting wet-nosed 23 year old FOs from the left seat of your mighty ERJ instead of babysitting "old geezers" from the right seat. The only Depends you will have to be worried about during your career are your own, I think.

I wholeheartedly support age 60, but both of my parents are well past 65 and neither of them wear Depends or "smell bad". Obviously you're still far too young and immature to understand the concept of respecting those who have gone before you. I'm quite sure my 70 year old father could still fly circles around your sorry ass. He might even be able to get through a CAL interview, which puts him several steps ahead of you.