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Does anybody have any info about Miami Air? I am thinking about putting in a resume and want some details. Any info would be appreciated.
 
In contract negotiations right now. FO's are looking to get a 20-35% pay increase. Three year training contract. You get a PIC type rating on the B737-800. Parking the B727's and replacing them with two B737-400's in a 56 seat corporate configuration.
We do a lot of international flying. Lots of flying to Europe and the Middle East. We have a weekely run to Italy from Baltimore and to Venezuela from Miami.
Fun place to work. Getting lots of ETOPS and long range navigation experience. Our B737-800's are ETOPS 180 minutes certified. We are also in the process of getting Electronic Flight Bags in our B737-800's. No more Jeppesen uppdates

Good luck.
 
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PltSkiracer said:
In contract negotiations right now. Looking to get a 20-35% pay increase.

I am in negotiations, too. I am looking to get that brand new, 2006 silver Lexus SC430 I have my eye on down at the local dealership for $12,000. He wants $72K.

I think we both have about the same chance at success. Then again, maybe mine is just a hair better.
 
27 driver said:
Does anybody have any info about Miami Air? I am thinking about putting in a resume and want some details. Any info would be appreciated.
Why are thinking of putting a resume in? PUT THE RESUME IN! If you are lucky enough to get an interview, go to the interview. If you are lucky enough to get hired, then decide if the job is for you.

Reading up on MNPS, NAT, FMS, LRN, ETPs, ETOPS, 2 pilot 121 regs, and international procedures might not be a bad idea.
 
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McNugget said:
Sure, Miami Air does not fly freight. They are a passenger charter operation. Info on salary and applications can be found a www.airlinepilotcentral.info

Good Luck
They do a lot of AMC/DOD flying is what the people I know who used to work there say. Also: in-house union, no furlough history, moderate turnover (from firing and quiting), a 3 year $24,000 training contract. Low FO pay, lots of time away from home, and not a lot of upgrading. I hear the training is pretty thorough but interviews are pretty tough to get if you don't have an inside source.

A friend just turned them down because pay was too low for a 3-year lock. Remember, a type rating doesn't mean much without PIC time in type along with it.
 
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I am not really concerned with the low pay as much as the 3 year contract. I don't think I want to get locked in. I have someone to walk my resume in, I am just not sure if I want him to. Does anybody know how many days away from home, do you have to live in Miami, any other quality of life issues, etc.?
 
27 driver said:
I am not really concerned with the low pay as much as the 3 year contract. I don't think I want to get locked in. I have someone to walk my resume in, I am just not sure if I want him to. Does anybody know how many days away from home, do you have to live in Miami, any other quality of life issues, etc.?

This might be old info, my friend that went there said it was 9 hard days off, 2 soft days with 1.5 hr call out. Could be gone for 2 weeks at a time. Again, it might be old.
 
Yepp it's old....and we do fly the Heat 72, but not for long. We will keep flying the Heat but with a B737-400 in a corporate configuration. Our 72's are being parked.

I fly on average 30-50 hours a month and we can't be away from base more than 7 days . Normally 1-5 day trips. Very difficult to commute, we have several jumpseat agreements though. Life is good if you live in the Miami area. Lots of time off and not too much flying.

I moved to Miami and left an unstable regional career behind me. Smartest move I ever made!
 
I used to fly the Heat 72 a few years ago - real nice jet. I'da like to have been a fly on the wall (or pilot in the seat) on that return flight from Dallas!
 
I just got hired and was told the new contract will have much better pay for the first 3 years on the FO side. The contract is know $18,000. I was told you will not be away from home for more than 7 days. Since you commercial a great deal you get to accrue a great deal of miles on different airlines. The bonus at the end of the year comes out to be enough to pay for a vacation.
UBA757
 
Capt1124 said:
I have not worked there but from everything I know about it this is the kind of job to stay away from.

I've flown with some ex-Miami Air guys, they have some interesting stories about how they were treated at some borrowed gates due to the large number of ex-Eastern guys flying for them. Maybe thats what he means. But I think like Falcon Air, they have hot FA's!!
 
Miami Air is to be at the AeroServices/ClimbTo350 job fair this weekend. Does anyone know what a job applicant should expect during the interview? Is it most likely to be just a meet and greet thing or would they do a sim eval and full interview? Any input appreciated.
 
I would imagine that it would be a quick meet and review of your qualifications. If that was satisfactory then they would invite you back on Monday for a short knowledge test, face to face with the CP and then a sim check over at Aeroservice. But then again I'm just comparing them to Amerijet, that's how they do it.

Or try this

http://www.aviationinterviews.com/members/pilotgouge.php

You have to pay a couple of bucks ($5 or so) but well worth it.
 
interview gouge

the info from www.aviationinterviews.com


Address: P.O. Box 660880 Miami Springs, FL. 33266-1602 Fax: 305-871-4222 Phone: 305-876-3600 Website: http://www.miamiair.com/opportunities.asp

Date of interview: October 05, 2005 Date interview was submitted: October 26, 2005 Were you hired as a result of this interview? yes Total flight time: 3600 PIC flight time: 1700 PIC TURBINE flight time: 1500 Total multi engine flight time: 3200 Did someone walk in your application/ resume? yes How many letters of recommendation did you bring? 0 Are you a CFI? no Are you a CFII? no Are you a MEI? no How long after you sent your resume were you called? 1 weeks Do you have a college degree? 4 year Do you have a military background? no What is your current job? 121 What is your age? 30 What aircraft were you assigned? 737-800 If you were hired what is your training date? November 01, 2005

Interview experience:
Seems like a great company. They are typing F/O's in the 737. I had the interview with J.P. Great guy. Just talked about the company and a little about what I have been doing with my career. Very straight forward. Had the sim ride a week later (727) which I had never flown before. But it went well. They just want to check your scann. Great company and a great opportunity.



Date of interview: July 07, 2005 Date interview was submitted: July 13, 2005 Were you hired as a result of this interview? yes Total flight time: 4500 PIC flight time: 1000 PIC TURBINE flight time: 3800 Total multi engine flight time: 4000 Did someone walk in your application/ resume? no How many letters of recommendation did you bring? 0 Are you a CFI? no Are you a CFII? no Are you a MEI? no How long after you sent your resume were you called? 1 weeks Do you have a college degree? 4 year Do you have a military background? no What is your current job? other What is your age? 34 What aircraft were you assigned? 737-800 If you were hired what is your training date? August 01, 2005

Interview experience:
Very straight fwd. & professional. I met the CP at a job fair. They are looking for pilots with previous 121 time as well as those with EFIS experience. 737 type would help, but not required. Was given a handout on the company at the job fair after an initial 10 minute discussion... Basics on the good, bad & ugly of he company. Was called back a few days later for an interview... The interview was held in Miami at their headquarters. No technical questions. Questions asked were done so to determine how you would 'fit in' at the company. No questions were asked that would paint you into a corner. I got the impression they are looking for very flexible people who are not commuters. One on One interview with the CP, very professional and no BS... At the end of the interview he gave me a sim eval package. Scheduled the sim two weeks later... Sim eval is done in a 727 at Alteon in Miami. Real simple T/O, few turns, level off, direct to a hold, vectors for the ILS 9 into MIA. No tricks, just looking for basic instrument skills... Overall one of the most relaxed, professional interviews I have done in aviation. More airlines should conduct themselves in the same manor as those individuals I came across at Miami Air.
 
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Learnut and Kingaira90,

Thanks for the informative responses. I'm very limited on time for a good interview prep prior to the jobfair. Just hoping I can actually get myself to Miami while it's still happening, hand in a resume, and do the meet & greet.

Does anyone know any specifics that they seem to want of the applicants they hire? i.e.- Sounds like they want those that are going to live in or near Miami. Do they lean towards those w/ a corporate/charter background? Do they lean away from freightdogs? Previous Int'l experience(?), etc. . Is it the type place that you really need an inside recommendation?

Thanks, AV8N4Fun
 
I would say that by the looks of your experience your OK. It depends on the carrier on whether or not you need to live in Miami. Most don't care from what I've seen. I would have to say my opinion is limited in that I was only around that Aeroservice/Miami supplemental scene for 5 months. I did, however, fly with a few ex-Miami Air guys.
 
I enjoy Miami air, good crews, new aircraft and some of the best flying you will ever do. Some down sides are low FO pay, no commuting (cost of living in south Florida is nuts) expensive health insurance and currently a 6yr up-grade.
Do your research the charter life isn’t for everybody I left eagle after 5yrs and I don’t regret anything.
Also look at World they have a good contract with decent pay and home basing. They do the same type of flying and the guys I know there are pretty happy.
 
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@Kevdog: no furlough history
Better check your facts. They furloughed a whole bunch of people a few years back when they quit the 4 727 F contract they flew as Quest Cargo for Eagle.
Two friends of mine were victim of that. One got recalled a year later, the other went to another airline
 
I have been at Miami Air almost 10 years. It is a great company full of great people. Even the ones that piss me off I like to drink beer with. The flying is the greatest in the world. In the fall you fly all the college football teams on the weekends and military during the week.Between Thankgiving and Christmas you fly all the fans to and from all the bowl games.January is spent in Europe, usually in Bucharest, Febuary in Germany. March you get to check out all the girls from all over the USA as you fly them all to spring break. April you get to fly all the oldies to San Juan and Miami for their vacations. May things drop off to a leisurely pace so you can spend some quality time with your family. Any disaster, war, other other happening Miami Air is there. Reserve always goes senior as that is where all the best trips happen to be. ETOPS, NAT, CEP, ops are standard for generally every sequence. You can bid to fly a lot or bid to fly a little. I am senior so I bid to have 20 days on then 20 days off, my wife and kids love it. During the 20 days on usually I only fly 10 to 12 days. The FO pay is hard but it is hard everywhere, I think our new contract will either increase the FO pay or we will see the 1.5 hour to Miami rule go away. For those that don't like the sound of it stay away there are a lot of guys that love having the world as their playground. I love it, and have many good memories. BTW Falcon does have prettier FA's but they are almost out of business so maybe we will pick them up.
 
Any Miami Air guys still out there?
I'm looking for any current info on Miami Air. Looks like they are interviewing. I'm wondering if upgrade time is still as long as reported previously in this thread. Most info here is nearly a year old, but it was said then that upgrade time is 5 years or longer. Is that still the same? First year F/O pay still fairly low? Saw the $38/hr on the APC list, just curious if it had increased as some thought it might. How's the 3 year contract deal? Strictly enforsed? Not really? The pay , as reported, doesn't look like it increases much in the first 3 years ... The type of flying, company, & equipment sounds great, but 3 yr signing contract & maybe 5+ yr upgrade is a really big committment at my age. I guess I am hoping to hear someone from there say that pay has improved &/or upgrade potential has, or some other motivating perk. Ya know?
Thanks, AV8N4Fun

P.S. - BTW, (probably wrong place to ask such, but...) how do you, or is it possible to do a search on here for an entire phrase. Like on a google search I would put parentheses(" ") around the phrase (i.e. - "Miami Air") and it would find those two words together as a phrase. That does not seem to work here. If you do that here, you still get a search return w/ everything that has the word Miami or the word Air in it. The word air is in soooo much. Hope I explained that well enough. Any help would be appreciated sincerely.
 
I am in negotiations, too. I am looking to get that brand new, 2006 silver Lexus SC430 I have my eye on down at the local dealership for $12,000. He wants $72K.

I think we both have about the same chance at success. Then again, maybe mine is just a hair better.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!! W/Tears
 
I talked to these guys at the aeroservices job fair. Seems like a decent company, if you live within about an hour of MIA. I don't and the wife has no desire to, so I declined the interview. It was stressed to me that they are not commuter friendly. If you live in southern Florida and like the ad hoc lifestyle, it might be a good fit for you, though.
 

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