Mesaba

[khsgt]

What are Mesaba's pilot bases and pay scales. Thanks in advance

 

[PTinbound]

In order of seniority on the SAAB: MSP, DTW, MEM
AVRO: MSP, DTW, CVG, MEM

Pay scales? Under our current 1996 contract, we top out at $83 an hour for our 69 passenger (53 coach, 16 first) 4 engine jet.
I've actually noticed that it's about $10 lower than what Mesa currently tops out at....
All FO's somewhere between 18-30, regardless of equipment.
SAAB captains are in the mid to high 40 range.

Of course we haven't hired since pre 9/11 and still have folks on furlough. Last week our management proposed a 1% pay "raise" in exchange for lowering our monthly gurantee from 75 to 70 hours. On my side, the pay "raise" would be a $209 a month pay CUT. We'll see what happens in the negotiations, though I still always try to stay positive. The people here are fantastic and the job is still fun.

 

[B190Captain]

I would love to fly a SAAB.

 

[panampilot]

How is the Saab to fly? I don't know much about it. Does anyone else fly the Saab?

 

[Robinhood]

... and routes?

While we're on the subject of apparently-hard-to-find information about Mesaba, does anyone have a link to a current route map? The Mesaba web site is fairly useless in this department (as soon as you look for actual flight or route info, it's off to the NWA site, which provides no information of interest to those interested in Mesaba itself).

 

[blott]

the SAAB was fun to fly,

Under powered, but it was a tank..ahh the good old days...

 

[lil' Joe]

I hear that Pan Am is telling thier instructors that for $6000 they will get them a job at Mesaba. I guess they are saying that Mesaba is gonna hire 25 ASAP.

Sure...

Right.....

 

[Robinhood]

You hear some strange things...

 

[panampilot]

Not true. Pure flame bait. Nice try though.

 

[flap operator]

Robinhood - ahhhh - you're experiencing the proof that we are truely NW in almost every single way. They control us so darn much it's hard to get info on our company. They do this because NW buys all our seats. The Worldtraveler (inflight mag) used to have a Mesaba route map, but they've changed it recently. If for some reason you have one from March or earlier, you can see our system.

I'm trying ot think where we have routemaps... on some company pubs but i'd be unable to post them here without scanning them. Imgaine this... from Aspen to Halifax and Regina, Canada to the gulf coast and to hundreds of points inbetween - that basically makes up our route map.


FO

 

[SeaX]

Seats

"they buy all of our seats"

and don't ya love those buddy pass flight benifits

 

[mesaba2425]

Re: ... and routes?

While we're on the subject of apparently-hard-to-find information about Mesaba, does anyone have a link to a current route map? The Mesaba web site is fairly useless in this department (as soon as you look for actual flight or route info, it's off to the NWA site, which provides no information of interest to those interested in Mesaba itself).

Just go to www.mesaba.com, select Mesaba Info, Passengers, Route Map. That should provide the info you need. If you need any other unbiased Mesaba info, please PM me.

 

[Cargoboy]

Was that 1% pay raise the extent of your new contract negotiations? I hope you guys start hiring soon. I am hoping to work there someday.
If you know any info on contract negotiations and or if you are or are going to be hiring I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks

 

[Simon Says]

For our route map just look at A/C 454. It is painted over the whole fuselage.

 

[DrunkIrishman]

Is the SAAB a good airplane you ask?

S- Swede's
A- Aren't
A- Airplane
B- Builders

;-)

 

[saabservant]

See www.alpa.org for two updates on the lawsuit filed against the company for bad faith bargaining and attempts to go around the union...

It's a good company, with some great people, and the pilot group is well led(by the union), and unified.
The new mgmt. team are all NWA appointed accountant and lawyer jackals. As a senior ALPA official put it to me recently, its all about "what is a pilot worth?". Not much, according to NWA...

Note to all young hard-chargers chomping for a flying job...
we've all been there, and any job flying something larger than a 172 sounds good, but try to remember your long term career and family goals before going somewhere like freedom airlines, which was set up only to drastically lower any living standards that may exist in this pathetic industry. Unless you are happy to continue living in someone's basement, eating beans and rice. The ATA, RAA, and executives like Ornstein would be happy to accomodate you.

We hope this battle is over soon, and we see you on board!

 

[SeaX]

For our route map just look at A/C 454. It is painted over the whole fuselage.

you mean 439 and 441 right

 

[CWASaab]

xj info

Yep, Simon Says has been out of the saab too long... it is 439XJ and 441XJ that have the route maps on them, but then again, who can read the map through the grime & flaked paint?

Of course those route maps probably still show BEH. Boy it would have sucked to be doing a BEH overnight earlier this week, we would have needed that armoured police car I saw on CNN as a crew car to get through the 'hood and to the hotel.

If memory serves 454XJ is the "500th Saab Airliner".

As far as flying the saab, I loved it, but then again I didn't have to fly it in MEM this time of year. It is underpowered, prone to W&B issues and I think the Swedes did all the test flights during the winter with no one aboard, but it was a blast.

As far as hiring goes, we are currently recalling all of our pilots on furlough. Considering that they *had* to cancel some Saab Vacations in July this is overdue. There is rumor that we might hire some (the number I have heard is approx. 20). Pure rumor as far as I know at this point, no facts to back this up.

If, and I stress, IF, we hire think long and hard and be nice to your current employer. The company recalled last summer, only to furlough those pilots again in the fall when the summer flying went away. That could be in your future as well.

Please also consider what others have said here, and I will reiterate: We have a great group of employees here, a great company with history, pride and industry-leading performance. We do however suffer from mis-mangement NWA style, and a lack of leadership from the plush offices in the GO.

If you can weather a seasonal furlough, or possibly a strike in the next 6-12 months, getting in now could be a gold mine. Many of us think that when this contract gets settled XJ will be getting CRjs, and growing again, and being on the list before that happens could be golden.

One last caution, take anything said by Mesaba2425 with a judicious grain of salt... we don't know who he is and he won't say, needless to say the suspicion is that he is not a pilot but rather somewhere on the management organizational chart.

CWASaab,
well... Not anymore

 

[WrightAvia]

hey...whatever happened to ERIC ASHERMAN...he was an RJ85 FO. I also heard that Joel Boozeman left Mesaba to go to Air Willy probably just after his 1 year hire contract was up.

 

[Simon Says]

HEHEHE.......it has been too long.