Mesaba Strike Deadline

[T-Gates]

Serious question here for Pinnacle.......not flamebait.

Just curious if your MEC has started putting the word out about not flying struck work if it comes down to that. I've heard some pretty disturbing reports (through the grapevine ) of some Pinnacle pilots saying they will fly whatever they're asked to fly by management, even if it was a route previously flown by Mesaba. Their reasoning is Mesaba doesn't technically "own" any of the routes so it can't be considered struck work. I haven't had the chance to talk to any of you guys myself but would like some insight from those that frequent this board if you wouldn't mind.

Thanks and fly safe

Our MEC is working with your MEC on strictly defining struck work. I have not heard of anyone making such a bold and assenine statement. I hope that no pilot would be stupid enough to break this line.....

This PCL pilot will happily walk the line with you guys.

 

[Sppedmode]

You guys at Mesaba have nothing to worry about regarding Pinnacle flying "struck work". We have guys trying to get cards made with phone numbers for us to call if we believe a flight may be considered "struck work". And we also have a couple guys designing a flight bag sticker that supports Mesaba pilots. I think it says something like "Pinnacle Pilots supports Mesaba Pilots Jan 10th 12:01". Trust me, we ALL are looking to help you guys out, we are going to be their next victim in just over a year when our contract is up in May 2005.
I wish you guys the best and, please, let us know what we can do to help...much love from the west coast!

 

[fly4ever]

Thanks to all the pilot groups that support us. It helps to relieve some of the anxiety and stress when we hear the positive comments from all of you.

No matter what, it is a fight worth fighting.

C-Yaaaa!

 

[saabtrash]

That's great guys, appreciate the support. I still don't think saabslimes post was meant to "offend," it seemed to me he was pretty cautious about how he worded it. Oh well. You guys wouldn't beleive the rumors flying around though, and your right, none of them are necessarily "solid," they all involve talking to guys while jumpseating or vice versa. In the end, I think that everything will work out fine...

Dointime, you seem so angry.

 

[DoinTime]

Dointime, you seem so angry.

Sorry....just in a pissed off rage today dealing with the company to try to get my pay records fixed. Talking about others crossing your picket line are EXTREAMLY big words though and need to have fact behind them before they are uttered.

 

[sf3boy]

I, too, would like to say thanks for those that are rallying behind us. We have a management team that thinks our pilot group is nothing more than misfits and second rate, and their pay proposals prove it. Mesaba pilots take heart when they hear that others out there are supporting us. Thank you all.

 

[dondk]

If you would take a vote at pinnacle I think you would find 98% of us support Mesaba (the 2% are the a$$holes, that are pro management)

 

[cl-65link]

I attended our last LEC meeting in MSP on Nov. 19th. Wychor was in the office that day and after we conducted some of our business, he gave us a tour of the strike center. The XJ MEC has the ability to track aircraft movements on the airport. They have a call center set up to handle calls from the media, etc. They also have PC's set up with flight tracking software to track all Redtail flights(including Big Sky). The idea is to have a representative from NW and Pinnacle present to handle any struck route or flying questions that arise. Hopefully these measures will preclude any chances of a struck route being operated by NW or Pinnacle. Give 'em hell and good luck.

 

[SpocksBeard]

Kick Spandex in the @ss!!!!!!!

 

[OakRBust]

Bump


Good luck you guys!!!! I am still hoping for a miracle on the 15th for all of you!!!

 

[blott]

Good luck guys,

There are a lot of pilots out there that fully support what you are doing.

B (CHQ)

 

[AvroJockey]

Struck Work?

Just curious if your MEC has started putting the word out about not flying struck work if it comes down to that. I've heard some pretty disturbing reports (through the grapevine ) of some Pinnacle pilots saying they will fly whatever they're asked to fly by management, even if it was a route previously flown by Mesaba. Their reasoning is Mesaba doesn't technically "own" any of the routes so it can't be considered struck work. I haven't had the chance to talk to any of you guys myself but would like some insight from those that frequent this board if you wouldn't mind.

We define what struck work is, and it's up to individual MECs to accept.
This should answer your questions. Straight from our MEC!

The Mesaba MEC requests that the Northwest MEC continue to demonstrate their support for the Mesaba pilots in the event of a strike by refraining from performing any flying that represents:

1. A change of gauge to larger aircraft on any city pair served by Mesaba as reflected by the December 2003 OAG schedule,

2. An increase in frequency on any city pair normally flown by both Northwest and Mesaba as reflected by the December 2003 OAG schedule,


3. An addition of routes between city pairs normally flown by Mesaba and not normally flown by Northwest as reflected by the December 2003 OAG schedule,


4. An addition of routes, or an increase in gauge or frequency that reflects hub substitution based upon the December 2003 OAG schedule. For example, Mesaba and Northwest both currently fly between MSP and RST (and RST is not served by any other Northwest hub). Northwest would not establish a new route between RST and any other hub (MEM or DTW), and/or if Northwest did previously serve RST from another hub, there would not be an increase in the size of the aircraft serving RST from any other hub, or increase the frequency of service from any other hub.


The Northwest MEC waived their standard policy of not determining in advance whether Northwest pilots would support a striking employee group and instead approved our definition of struck work by acclamation in their MEC meeting also held this week. As the Pinnacle MEC was not in session this week, we have not yet drafted a resolution for the Pinnacle pilots. We have however been in constant communication with our fellow Airlink partners and we look forward to working with them to protect all of our careers.

 

[CWASaab]

BUMP

Thanks to all of the folks offering support, we appreciate the thoughts very much.

CWASaab

 

[skootertrash]

It should also be noted what the code share partners do. Example. Look at CVG to CLE and EWR. COEX used to fly a ton of routes but now they are mostly flown by comair or another Delta color.

Since CAL and Delta are code sharing we need to make sure that none of the other carriers' "feeders" pick up any of that flying.

 

[OakRBust]

BUMP

 

[fly4ever]

Hi S.O.

We appreciate your support!

No matter what the Avro announcement will be or what our future is, those decisions have been made. The only thing we have any control over is what we can legally do on Jan. 10. If the company refuses to acknowledge the contribution we have made to profits for Mesaba and does not offer a fair contract then we, as a group, will do what we have to do.

I think I'm safe in saying that none of us wants to be a martyr for pilot groups everywhere but we definitely don't want to be known as sell-outs.

Yesterday, we had a Mesa jumpseater come on board and the form had a note by their name that said, "NOT FREEDOM AIRLINES" and this person made it clear that they had voted no on the contract.

It's sad when a professional pilot feels like they have to separate themselves from their own pilot group to be recognized as a professional. It's worse when pilots accept managements version of what a pilot is worth and then there is the absolute lowest life form of a "pilot" which is better known as the "Scab". Those that take jobs from pilots who are fighting to improve the standards of the entire group.

The vast majority(at least 98%) of XJ pilots care about our profession, our jobs and our future and will refuse to be sell-outs. We don't want the label or the reputation.

 

[belchfire]

Guys and gals at Mesaba

The best of luck to you in the coming weeks
and I hope that you get what you have
worked to get.

I don't know what a Corpex junkstream
driver can do for you, but if there is any
thing I can do, PM me and I'll try.

Godspeed and good luck!

 

[fly4ever]

Bump

 

[FO for life]

belchfire:

"I don't know what a Corpex junkstream
driver can do for you, but if there is any
thing I can do, PM me and I'll try."

you can help get our people out of Paducah on the morning of the strike since you are the only other game in town. hopefully I'll be at home or at a station with lots of options to get a ride home. thanks for your support.

FO

 

[ranger17]

To all Mesaba pilots.

Thanks to all you guys and gals that are fighting for pilots of today and of the future. I am one of those hopeful future pilots and I appreciate all the efforts that are being made so someday I may make more when I start at a regional than the guy serving burgers at Macdonld's does. So hang in there and know that what you are doing isn't going unnoticed.