xjhawk
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This is a direct response to xjdriver......i agree with your info in regards to the new hiring but your opinions on the second half of your message is lacking any thought or knowledge on the workings of a big business. It is not that poeple , new pilots, are quiting earlier than expected that companies like Pinnicle are not paying during training, it is because they can get away with it and make a bunch more money at the expense of a frew desperate pilots. The coming of an upswing of hiring in the 90's and union contracts getting stronger that stopped that. A few pilots quiting for better pay is industry norm just like most industries and as for the guy spocks beard, do you think the company had his welfare or anyother pilots welfare in mind when they threatened furlough? And to remind you of the managements bonuses after 911 even though they furloughed 1st officers(i am sure their combined two years salary would not equal the senior managements bonuses at that time!) but xjdriver, i am sure when you were furloughed, your firsat thoughts were "what can i do for the company now" If spocks beard thought he could earn a living at another airline and thought his job security was better, then hey! more power to the guy! That is capitolism at its best.....competition for the better work force. What the airlines like pinnicle are doing is a race for the worst workforce buy hiring gulfstream pilots that pay thousands of dollars for a job and probably still think they will be 747 captains in just a few years.....now...for my disclaimer....if you are a gulfstream pilot that has worked your but off, and does not have daddy's wallet paying for everything....work hard and you'll be rewarded....and hey...if you all get a chance to work at Mesaba...i think the people thaat work their are the best and it is a great place to work and it will only get better! people just need to realise that bumps do happen and think that regionals are going to be careers for many of us.....no matter what some of the younger pilots think!
This is a direct response to xjdriver......i agree with your info in regards to the new hiring but your opinions on the second half of your message is lacking any thought or knowledge on the workings of a big business. It is not that poeple , new pilots, are quiting earlier than expected that companies like Pinnicle are not paying during training, it is because they can get away with it and make a bunch more money at the expense of a frew desperate pilots. The coming of an upswing of hiring in the 90's and union contracts getting stronger that stopped that. A few pilots quiting for better pay is industry norm just like most industries and as for the guy spocks beard, do you think the company had his welfare or anyother pilots welfare in mind when they threatened furlough? And to remind you of the managements bonuses after 911 even though they furloughed 1st officers(i am sure their combined two years salary would not equal the senior managements bonuses at that time!) but xjdriver, i am sure when you were furloughed, your firsat thoughts were "what can i do for the company now" If spocks beard thought he could earn a living at another airline and thought his job security was better, then hey! more power to the guy! That is capitolism at its best.....competition for the better work force. What the airlines like pinnicle are doing is a race for the worst workforce buy hiring gulfstream pilots that pay thousands of dollars for a job and probably still think they will be 747 captains in just a few years.....now...for my disclaimer....if you are a gulfstream pilot that has worked your but off, and does not have daddy's wallet paying for everything....work hard and you'll be rewarded....and hey...if you all get a chance to work at Mesaba...i think the people thaat work their are the best and it is a great place to work and it will only get better! people just need to realise that bumps do happen and think that regionals are going to be careers for many of us.....no matter what some of the younger pilots think!