Mesaba is interviewing.

[WileE]

IIRC...

Comair had new hire classes starting even as the strike started. That would have sucked to go on strike the day after you started class, but at least you'd have a seniority number to go back to after the strike.

 

[JJJ]

I believe that if you are in training you can complete you training including IOE and one revenue flight following IOE and still not be a scab.

 

[xjcaptain]

Spocksbeard: is this clear enough:

WAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

You were hired, trained, put on line, not furloughed and quit within 3 months. Sounds like XJ should be complaining about investing money on you.

 

[SpocksBeard]

Thats true and the purpose of my post was not to whine about my plight. It all turned out well in the end. They should be upset that I left but they left me with very little choice. I didn't want to leave and wouldn't have in the first place if circumstances were different.

 

[WhiteCloud]

You were hired, trained, put on line, not furloughed and quit within 3 months. Sounds like XJ should be complaining about investing money on you.

Guess it works both ways sometimes. Pilots leave jobs then are informed by the new company they aren't needed. Pilot's take a job then inform the company they don't need them anymore. As long as pilots are treated like transients it's hard to expect loyalty.

 

[xjhawk]

training again

For one thing, i was happy ...real happy to get my job, and it was fun and a bit stressful to have over three months off while they tried to figure out the Avro and labot problem. But the three Avro guys are back in training form day one with a schedule to get us to Sims again. Hopefully we get to get into the Sims and then A/C this time. And as for the response to "Spock" yes i was in basic indoc with him, and congrats to him for getting into AirWilly, he went to better pay and better benifits and a better base, can anyone blame him? And as for the hiring? Yes they are getting a pool of 50( straight form chief pilot) or 70 (a rumor form HR after a meeting) for a yet to be determined beginning of classes all dependant on the ratifcation of a certain contract.............

 

[SpocksBeard]

i guess i'm making it pretty obvious who i am
good to hear you guys are back in class!

 

[mycfitrips]

Who is the contact now at Mesaba? Name to address the letter to.

 

[SpocksBeard]

Han Hoppe was who I dealt with the most back when I got hired

 

[XJdriver]

The number I am also hearing is 50. They are hiring sim and ground instructors for the SAAB and Avro both. The reason being from what I am hearing is the increase to 11 days off from ten will cause a need for at lease 20 to 30 pilots and I was told that NWA is giving Mesaba 10,000 hours of additional flying this summer over last. We are also still short staffed even for this time of the year.

As far as quiting whithin a few months of getting hired I too think that is a little poor. I wouldnt hire anyone that I saw did that on their applicaton. Be prepared to expain yourself at every interview from now on. Heck I was furoughed from Mesaba twice over the winter and the first time the day after I finished my green line. You should have considered yourself lucky that they retracted your potential furlough. You are the reason why companies like Pinnacle dont pay during training or require a training agreement. All that you did is make it harder for anyone else who tries to come along.

 

[YaMama]

Quitting after a few months ...

Give him a break, if he was getting dicked around by mgmt, he had every right to go somewhere else. Employers need to realize that the job market is a two-way street, and if they're going to treat their employees like crap, be prepared to see them leave for greener pastures. Especially if they lie to you in the interview about future growth (or anything else).

Yes the company loses some money on training, but that's nowhere near the impact it has on the pilot's life, of quitting your old job and changing your life around for a new one, only to find out it's not what was promised.

Of course, some employers prefer a pilot who is willing to get repeatedly reamed and keep saying thank you sir, may I have another. But the more enlightened ones realize that treating people right is a better way to ensure loyalty.

 

[BAe3100FO]

New-hire Pay?

Just wondering:

Anyone know if the new TA changes anything as far as New-hires are concerned?

1. Pay?
2. Hotel?
3. Uniforms?
Etc.

Thanks.

 

[Propsfullfwd]

anyone know the minimums???

 

[liv'n_on_credit]

Re: New-hire Pay?

Just wondering:

Anyone know if the new TA changes anything as far as New-hires are concerned?

1. Pay?
2. Hotel?
3. Uniforms?
Etc.

Thanks.

They never talked about that in my interview. They were just talking about how much they like the new contract and how they hope it gets ratified.

And the mins are 1000/100.

 

[SpocksBeard]

Xjdriver - I see your point and that weighed heavily in my decision. I just don't think a flying job is worth sticking to if they play games with you like that. If they were that worried about the training cost then they wouldn't have planned on furloughing me. I also disagree that this causes companies like Pinnacle to treat new hires like they do. If they don't give pilots a million reasons to jump ship then the problem would solve itself. They treat new hires like they do because they CAN and pilots are willing to take it. I don't fault anybody for taking a job at Pinnacle either - I probably would have too about 6 months ago. In my situation in particular I was offered better pay, workrules, more days off, a base I might actually want to live in, AND I won't be the very bottom pilot in the company. He11, I've already got 17 numbers below me. I might actually be off reserve inside a year. I don't feel good about sticking it too XJ but what choice did I have?