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Northwest Airlines Exercises Options for 15 Additional Bombardier CRJ200 Regional Jets
Friday April 22, 8:15 am ET - Selects Mesaba Airlines to Operate Aircraft

MINNEAPOLIS, April 22 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Northwest Airlines (Nasdaq: NWAC - News) today announced that it has exercised options for 15 additional Bombardier Canadair Regional Jets (CRJ). Deliveries are scheduled to begin in September of this year.

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"As Northwest seeks to operate its regional fleet as efficiently and cost- effectively as possible, the company has always kept open the possibility for a second partner to operate CRJs," said Tom Bach, vice president, market planning and Airlink. "We look forward to an expanded relationship with Mesaba."

The letter of intent contemplates that Mesaba, a Northwest Airlink partner, will lease the 50-seat CRJs from Northwest and will continue to operate its existing Avro RJ85 and Saab 340 fleet on behalf of Northwest.

Northwest Airlines is the world's fourth largest airline with hubs at Detroit, Minneapolis/St. Paul, Memphis, Tokyo and Amsterdam, and approximately 1,500 daily departures. Northwest is a member of SkyTeam, an airline alliance that offers customers one of the world's most extensive global networks. Northwest and its travel partners serve more than 900 cities in excess of 160 countries on six continents.
 
What, no A380s? Screw that! I wouldn't fly those CRJs . . . wait, do those come with an APU?

What about Mesaba: All Props by 2007!
 
Finally, the best part of the announcment is that NWA and Mesaba just signed a new TEN year agreement to fly ALL THREE (AVRO, SAAB AND CRJ).
 
This press release is a little vaguer about who is going to operate them.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050422/225219.html?.v=1

Press Release
Source: BOMBARDIER AEROSPACE


Bombardier Signs Northwest Airlink for an Additional 15 CRJ200 Regional Jets
Friday April 22, 9:08 am ET

TORONTO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 22, 2005--Bombardier Aerospace announced today that Northwest Airlines has placed a firm order for 15 Bombardier CRJ200 50-seat regional jets on behalf of its Northwest Airlink regional airline operation.

The contract is valued at approximately $386 million US with deliveries scheduled to commence in the third quarter of 2005.

The transaction represents the conversion of 15 of the options Northwest holds on the Bombardier CRJ aircraft, and will increase the number of aircraft operated by Northwest Airlink to 154 Bombardier CRJ aircraft. As of March 31, 2005, 76 CRJ440 and 45 CRJ200 aircraft had been delivered to Northwest Airlines.

"This order demonstrates the appeal of the CRJ200 aircraft in providing quality, high frequency jet service in lower density regional markets," said Steven Ridolfi, President, Bombardier Regional Aircraft. "The CRJ200 offers superior performance, comfort and the best operating economics in the 50-seat jet class. In addition, the CRJ Series enjoys single family commonality from 44-seats right up to 90-seats."

About Bombardier

A world-leading manufacturer of innovative transportation solutions, from regional aircraft and business jets to rail transportation equipment, Bombardier Inc. is a global corporation headquartered in Canada. Its revenues for the fiscal year ended Jan. 31, 2005, were $15.8 billion US and its shares are traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange (BBD). News and information are available at www.bombardier.com.

Bombardier, CRJ, CRJ440 and CRJ200 are trademarks of Bombardier Inc. or its subsidiaries.

Note to Editors An image will be available on our Web site photo gallery at: www.aero.bombardier.com/htmen/F15.jsp BOMBARDIER AEROSPACE (TSX:BBD.MV.A - News; TSX:BBD.SV.B - News)
 
Nothing is vague about this press release:

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050422/225054.html?.v=1

Mesaba Aviation to Fly CRJ Regional Jets
Friday April 22, 8:30 am ET
New Agreement to Expand and Extend Northwest Airlink Flying


MINNEAPOLIS & ST. PAUL, Minn.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 22, 2005--Mesaba Aviation, Inc., a subsidiary company of MAIR Holdings, Inc. (NASDAQ:MAIR - News), today announced that it has signed a letter of intent with Northwest Airlines to operate 15 Bombardier CRJ-200 regional jets under the Northwest Airlink banner, with exclusive rights to the next 20 CRJ-200 or CRJ-440 aircraft Northwest Airlines may order. Mesaba will lease the aircraft from Northwest Airlines and expects the first aircraft to enter service before the end of 2005.
 
Airlink Service Agreement also extended 10 years

As part of this transaction, Northwest and Mesaba will enter into a 10-year service agreement covering the operation of the CRJs. In addition, the existing Avro RJ85 and Saab 340 service agreements between Northwest and Mesaba, which are set to expire in April 2007 and June 2007, respectively, will be replaced with a new 10-year airline services agreement. Mesaba will continue to receive payments for the Avro RJ85 and Saab 340 operations under the current terms of the existing airline services agreements until March 2007, after which time Northwest Airlines' payments to Mesaba for all aircraft will be initially based on the average operating margin of publicly held regional carriers, subject to a margin cap and floor.
 
How long does it normally take an airline to be ready to operate a new fleet?
Training, suport, maintenance, all that stuff?
 
Flechas said:
How long does it normally take an airline to be ready to operate a new fleet?
Training, suport, maintenance, all that stuff?

Usually from scratch, like an announcement, 6-8 months. But of course the "other" rumor going around our training center is, the CRJ training program was dusted off a while ago and has been secretly in the works to save time. Guess we'll see.

In the press release it states "Mesaba will lease the aircraft from Northwest Airlines and expects the first aircraft to enter service before the end of 2005".

6 months from now is October and 8 months is December.
 
Ace McCoy said:
15? Watch out industry here we come!! You all should be quaking in your boots!

Which just goes to show you that some people are never happy.
 
T-handle said:
Usually from scratch, like an announcement, 6-8 months. But of course the "other" rumor going around our training center is, the CRJ training program was dusted off a while ago and has been secretly in the works to save time. Guess we'll see.

In the press release it states "Mesaba will lease the aircraft from Northwest Airlines and expects the first aircraft to enter service before the end of 2005".

6 months from now is October and 8 months is December.

That's why I was asking, I though it would take more time, thre's too many things to take care of, and what about the FAA. "hey feds, we got a new type of plane on property" "Cool, just be safe!" I imagine they want they paperwork and whatever burocracy they have for that.
 
After some digging around, I found this at nwa.com "current news releases"

http://www.nwa.com/corpinfo/newsc/2005/pr042220051583.html

Northwest Airlines Exercises Options For 15
Additional Bombardier CRJ200 Regional Jets


Selects Mesaba Airlines to operate aircraft


MINNEAPOLIS – (April 22, 2005) – Northwest Airlines (NASDAQ: NWAC) today announced that it has exercised options for 15 additional Bombardier Canadair Regional Jets (CRJ). Deliveries are scheduled to begin in September of this year.

Northwest selected Mesaba Airlines to operate the 15 aircraft under the terms of a non-binding letter of intent. Mesaba also was given exclusive rights to operate an additional 20 CRJs should Northwest elect to exercise additional options.

“As Northwest seeks to operate its regional fleet as efficiently and cost-effectively as possible, the company has always kept open the possibility for a second partner to operate CRJs,” said Tom Bach, vice president, market planning and Airlink. “We look forward to an expanded relationship with Mesaba.”

The letter of intent contemplates that Mesaba, a Northwest Airlink partner, will lease the 50-seat CRJs from Northwest and will continue to operate its existing Avro RJ85 and Saab 340 fleet on behalf of Northwest. Northwest Airlines is the world’s fourth largest airline with hubs at Detroit, Minneapolis/St. Paul, Memphis, Tokyo and Amsterdam, and approximately 1,500 daily departures. Northwest is a member of SkyTeam, an airline alliance that offers customers one of the world’s most extensive global networks. Northwest and its travel partners serve more than 900 cities in excess of 160 countries on six continents.
 
Flechas,
The training program was already written in 1999, before it was release that PNCL was getting them. Basically, it just got "dusted off", updated, and most likely already in the hands of our FAA POI's. Since they have already ended negotiations with ALPA, and have been hiring heavly for the last month or so, I would guess they have got their ducks in a row and ready for the quick certification. They will have to do proving runs though, and I believe that can only be accomplished in the aircraft. So that will be a little delay, I'm sure. It will be hard to tell when NWA puts them on the timetable though, especially with PNCL flying flights with what were traditionally XJ flight numbers.
 
Flechas said:
That's why I was asking, I though it would take more time, thre's too many things to take care of, and what about the FAA. "hey feds, we got a new type of plane on property" "Cool, just be safe!" I imagine they want they paperwork and whatever burocracy they have for that.

In practical terms, everyone, meaning Management, ALPA, and Feds, already knew about this in the background. XJ's training center will be in triple overdrive this summer!
 
Now that it's official, the next big question(s) what are the payrates? (If the 40-55 seat scale was renegotiated) What are the stipulations, like seatlocks, upgrades, etc...? Starting calling your union reps! They can finally talk!!!
 
Congrats ya'll! Now here's the interesting thing....how are they going to trade between mesaba and pinnacle on the routes and such? How did that work with the Saab's when Mesaba came down to memphis?
 
PeanuckleCRJ said:
Congrats ya'll! Now here's the interesting thing....how are they going to trade between mesaba and pinnacle on the routes and such? How did that work with the Saab's when Mesaba came down to memphis?

That's a good question. I wonder too if there's anything to Steenland's comments about a DAY or GRR hub.
 
I'm curious. It has been said that 80% would like the deal and 20% wouldn't. Where are the pitfalls with this annoucement? No seatlocks, no concessions, we've got growth, and a renewed agreement with NW. These all seem to be positives in my eyes...
 
No changes is better than going backwards. Management offered changes to the freeze language, implementing PBS, and a 1 year contract extension. All which were turned down. :D
 
How will this affect peanuckle. Will they shrink, their street captains are probably done, as are upgrades? Is PNCL still taking CRJ's?
 
ImbracableCrunk said:
That's a good question. I wonder too if there's anything to Steenland's comments about a DAY or GRR hub.

GRR hub, now that has captured my attention. How likely will this be, and if it does happen how senior would it go. What are the chances a furloughed indy guy getting into the right seat of the CRJ based in GRR?

I know i'm dreaming right now, but this could change a lot of my plans.
 
DTWFO said:
What are your current pay rates in your new contract for the CRJ??

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40-59 Passenger
Jet

YOS CA FO

0-1 55.42 23.54

1-2 57.09 28.22
2-3 58.81 30.99

3-4 60.57 33.75

4-5 62.37 34.76

5-6 64.26 35.80

6-7 66.19 36.88

7-8 68.17 37.98* (FO max at 8 years)

8-9 70.21

9-10 72.32

10-11 74.48

11-12 76.71

12-13 79.02

13-14 81.40

14-15 83.83

15-16 86.35

16-17 88.94

17-18 91.61
 

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