Mesaba Airlines Poised for Massive Growth

[i fly boxes]

-MESABA UPDATE-

An additional 15 CRJ 900's to Mesaba
First revenue flight Feb 18.
Delivered at 2 per month
7 New aircraft off the line
8 received from Freedom
Public to be notified via Press Release shortly

Dude that is some MASSIVE GROWTH!

 

[flyf15]

-MESABA UPDATE-

An additional 15 CRJ 900's to Mesaba
First revenue flight Feb 18.
Delivered at 2 per month
7 New aircraft off the line
8 received from Freedom
Public to be notified via Press Release shortly

Wouldn't be surprised to see that correspond with your 17 CRJ-200s being sent to the desert. NW/DL doesn't want nearly as many -200s anymore and the Mesaba ones seem like an easy target.

So thats still a net reduction of 2 airframes...

 

[jkurtfly]

Wouldn't be surprised to see that correspond with your 17 CRJ-200s being sent to the desert. NW/DL doesn't want nearly as many -200s anymore and the Mesaba ones seem like an easy target.

So thats still a net reduction of 2 airframes...

Why park XJ's 200's. They are flown on effiecent routes. Also there are other regionals with a lot more 200's than XJ.

 

[CoATP]

As XJ is now OWNED by the mothership all it takes is a memo to park a/c in the desert no contract changes or legal mumbo jumbo. Expect the pace of change to increase.

 

[flyf15]

Why park XJ's 200's. They are flown on effiecent routes. Also there are other regionals with a lot more 200's than XJ.

A lot of the -200s at the different regionals are there under service agreements (contracts) and are very much legally in place. XJ's are just there because thats where they're placed. It wouldn't take a team of lawyers to get rid of them like it would at other regionals. They're undesirable airplanes and a small subfleet.

-200s from other regionals could easily be put on the routes XJ's are currently flying. Theres no way those things are surviving the merger.

 

[flap operator]

Fine... take the 200s as long as they're replaced with an equal or greater amount of planes. We're tired of shrinking and we just got back to our pre Ch11 size. Being displaced to get a raise never hurt anyone either.

 

[OUPilot]

if mesaba operates the 200's cheaper than other's, they will survive. if history has proven anything, a contract can be gotten out of or bought out very easily after a few hurdles.

 

[SplitBar]

Amen! They can gladly have the 200's if they are raplaced by 900's. Obviously I would prefer to keep the 200's also but a 1 for 1 swap out of 200's for 900's wouldn't suck. Again, Flyf15 is just about spreding doom & gloom. I think his diet consists of nothing but sour grapes.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Fine... take the 200s as long as they're replaced with an equal or greater amount of planes. We're tired of shrinking and we just got back to our pre Ch11 size. Being displaced to get a raise never hurt anyone either.

Uh yea becasue it would almost certainly cause me to be displaced out of the jet. Do you really think all 17 200's in MSP would be replaced with 17 900's so that there would be no base movement either? I'd guess at least a few end up either in ATL or SLC.

 

[flyf15]

Amen! They can gladly have the 200's if they are raplaced by 900's. Obviously I would prefer to keep the 200's also but a 1 for 1 swap out of 200's for 900's wouldn't suck. Again, Flyf15 is just about spreding doom & gloom. I think his diet consists of nothing but sour grapes.

Doom and Gloom? Its not me thats starting it, I'm just being realistic. Delta has said they want 600 regional aircraft after the merger is complete. DL/NW combined currently have a hair over 800. Thats 200 planes that are going to get cut with no replacements.

You have to start looking at what would be the easy targets. I have no idea where they're going to come from. I don't even have a dog in this fight. But, realistically, Mesaba's -200s seem like an easy target.

There isn't going to be any growth anywhere that isn't at the expense of someone else. Every RJ that is delivered to a regional under the Delta umbrella is going to come because of a (probably larger) cut somewhere else, either at your airline or another.

I highly doubt any regional is going to have "massive" growth. And, if it did, it'd be because they're getting all their flying from someone else... and furloughs are nothing anyone should be celebrating.

 

[Broke in CVG]

and furloughs are nothing anyone should be celebrating.

Except Mesa/Freedmon. I would gladly celebrate Mesa/Freedmon furloughs or liquidation!!!!

Mesa Sucks!

 

[SEVEN]

Except Mesa/Freedmon. I would gladly celebrate Mesa/Freedmon furloughs or liquidation!!!!

Mesa Sucks!

You're absolutely right. The world will be a much better place when Mesa/Freedumb are finally liquidated and done for good. No good can come from this airline continuing to operate flights on a daily basis. It must stop!

On a positive note, Delta has made it clear that Mesaba's operations will continue to grow. This "massive growth" is just the begining. But at the end of the day, operating cost and performance are the key factors for Delta's new game plan. Mesa/Freedums outcome are dim to say the least.....

 

[WMUSIGPI]

It's not growing much on today's vacancy notice. Only 4 new hires, All to the Saab.

 

[CptMurf]

I highly doubt any regional is going to have "massive" growth. And, if it did, it'd be because they're getting all their flying from someone else... and furloughs are nothing anyone should be celebrating.

I agree, but while we shrank and lost flying, other regionals grew and celebrated. Let us have a little bravado over finally getting back to the fleet size we had on 9/11.

 

[drift diamond]

Local management has shown complience with big dog. (i.e. Deltoids). Expect radical changes to domestic fleet. Wake up boys and girls. A change is a comin'.

 

[flap operator]

WMU - when the vacancies show small numbers for the 900 we know the music is about to stop. Think about it... why in the world would we be seeing large numbers of saab and 200 new hires right now? Those fleets will only be staffed for attrition. The 900 fleet is growing, therefore that's why those classes have bigger numbers. Haven't you figured out the pattern yet? 900/saab one week then 200/saab the next. THe last vacancy had 900s, this one won't. The next will and so on and so on.