Mesa, Pinnacle Pilot Pay Rates Posted:

[Lear70]

Nope. Pinnacle. Pinch Nickle. Cynical. Those "other" Northwest RJ guys.

I don't think CMR is up for another two years if memory serves... However, NW has both mainline pilots AND our pilots in negotiations at the same time, which is pretty ballsy, but mainline pilot contract talks (concessionary) are going well enough that they will probably be done by the time we get anywhere NEAR the point of requesting release into self-help from the NMB (which most of us think will be required to get anywhere near parity on this contract).

 

[BRA]

the site is excellent. Very easy to use and very informative. I'm suprised it didn't exsist sooner.

 

[BRA]

Anychance of putting the crew bases on that website somehow too???

 

[standaman]

Again thanks to 767-300ER for the work. Nice site as well. May I suggest DHL (on the cargo side) and commute air (on the regional side) if at all possible be added. Would be curious to know about these companies.

 

[BRA]

Well i think Astar is DHL?

 

[AWACoff]

I am a bit concerned about the accuracy of the pay rates you have posted on your webpage. Air Wisconsin does have a 401k match. I have never heard of this "B" plan you mention. What other airlines have inaccurate info posted about them?

 

[Skybound737]

I personally don't get why the need to bash any regional...

All the rates suck.. Look back about 4-5 years they were much worse and that included Air Wiskey, ASA, and Comair.

Our rates at Air Wiskey went down last Sept. Due to the UAL bankruptcy and a strong-arm from UAL management down to Air Wiskey management. Those pay concessions were the direct result of the line item bid for labor that UAL imposed on the express carriers. Line item meaning an analysis of labor per labor group flight attendants, mechanics, pilots.... and who can do the job cheapest. Theoretically, we couldn't even compete with MESA with our well deserved contract we used to have. I would be making close to $1,000 a month MORE than I do now as a 5th-6th year CA on the CRJ with the old contract B.M. (Before Mesa). That's a lot of jing over a year. Yea the regionals suck, but Air Wiskey USED to be the place to be if you needed to make a career out of flying 50-100 seat airplanes until you are 60 years old. I wish there was a web site that would post our old rates so that the newbies out there could see exactly what is happening to this business. Oh well, nothing will stop it.

.....until you are 60 years old....think about that! I need a beer.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Just wondering, what is the upgrade time at ASA, and how do you flow thru equipment?Mesa has about 3 and a half year to four year upgrade to jet captain, but no fo to fo moving. Is it the same at ASA?

 

[sweptback]

Just wondering, what is the upgrade time at ASA, and how do you flow thru equipment?Mesa has about 3 and a half year to four year upgrade to jet captain, but no fo to fo moving. Is it the same at ASA?

Nobody really knows what the upgrade time will be. Especially now since everybody got excited with the new deliveries, but they look like they will be offset by the retirement of the ATRs.

You can always bid up to a higher paying equipment type, whether it be CRJ FO to CR7 FO, or AT7 FO to CR7 FO. The only thing you can't do is bid AT7 FO to CRJ FO until you've completed your seat lock (1 year) as the pay is the same on both. Although I'm not sure how that's going to work out now that the ATRs are leaving (well at least 7 of them but probably all eventually).

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Thanks, got a friend who wants to get on over there or at Mesa, I told him to stay away from Mesa, but I don't know much about ASA to help him compare.