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islandhopper

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http://starbulletin.com/2006/07/01/business/story02.html
Hawaiian may sue former consultant over secrets
The carrier says Mo Garfinkle abused its confidential files

By Dave Segal
[email protected]
Hawaiian Airlines is considering suing its former consultant, Mo Garfinkle, alleging he used the carrier's confidential information after he began consulting for Mesa Air Group Inc., the parent of competing interisland carrier go!


Garfinkle, who previously served as a consultant to former Hawaiian Airlines Chief Executive John Adams and current Chairman Larry Hershfield, is one of the principals of Arlington, Va.-based GCW Consulting. Hawaiian filed a motion yesterday in federal Bankruptcy Court requesting a 45-day extension to yesterday's deadline to amend pleadings and add parties to its pending lawsuit against Mesa.


Hawaiian wants additional time to conduct further discovery in the lawsuit. If the court is unwilling to grant the time, Hawaiian said it wants to add GCW as a defendant.


Also yesterday, Bankruptcy Judge Robert Faris denied a motion by Mesa to dismiss one count against it in the Hawaiian suit. The Phoenix-based carrier had sought to throw out the count that would require Mesa to turn over all confidential Hawaiian information that Mesa has in its possession. Although Faris denied Mesa's motion, Mesa previously has said it destroyed all such information.

((Why is Mesa so worried about this if they destroyed the information? Reminds me of the nazis burning documents at the end of the war))




continued;

Hawaiian is seeking damages against Mesa for breach of contract for allegedly using confidential information Mesa acquired when it was a bidder for Hawaiian in bankruptcy. A trial on the suit is set for next April. Earlier this week, Hawaiian filed a motion seeking a preliminary injunction to prevent go! from selling interisland tickets for one year.


:uzi: woo hoo! kill em all Hawaiian! :uzi: A--hahahahahahaha!!!!!
 
:laugh:Make EVERYONE HAPPY! String Up JO and let him twist in the wind! What a POS!
 
Tomct said:
:laugh:Make EVERYONE HAPPY! String Up JO and let him twist in the wind! What a POS!

I do believe I predicted exactly that last September. Adios Mesa! The humiliation is being served LUAU STYLE! :puke:

TTMF!
 
Dude,
Im not quite sure if you are deathly afraid of mesa being in hawaii, or you are trying to inform everyone here what they already know regarding Mesa Airlines, the CEO, and operating procedures. Regardless, you post constantly on this subject, and this leads multiple people to believe you have no outside life. Yes, I am a MAG pilot (AMW), and honestly could care less if they succeed or fail in hawaii. You are preaching to the choir, and this choir could care less. If your beef is with mesa mgmt, and not mesa pilots, then get over it already. It got old yesterday.....
 
DeltaLima21 said:
Dude,
Im not quite sure if you are deathly afraid of mesa being in hawaii, or you are trying to inform everyone here what they already know regarding Mesa Airlines, the CEO, and operating procedures. Regardless, you post constantly on this subject, and this leads multiple people to believe you have no outside life. Yes, I am a MAG pilot (AMW), and honestly could care less if they succeed or fail in hawaii. You are preaching to the choir, and this choir could care less. If your beef is with mesa mgmt, and not mesa pilots, then get over it already. It got old yesterday.....

August 4th, D-day for JO... He took the bait hook line & sinker & Hawaiian is going to rip him a new a$$hole like a blue marlin.

They will be talking about this for decades, how the cocky mesa CEO went to Hawaii looking for an easy kill and got his $hit pushed in by da boys instead. Buh bye JO!

This just in!
http://biz.yahoo.com/bizj/060702/1310352.html?.v=1

:smash: :uzi:
 
DeltaLima21 said:
Dude,
you have no outside life. Yes, I am a MAG pilot (AMW), and honestly could care less if they succeed or fail in hawaii. You are preaching to the choir, and this choir could care less. If your beef is with mesa mgmt, and not mesa pilots, then get over it already. It got old yesterday.....

Couldn't care less. Stating that you "could care less" means that you do care, at least some, which I don't think that you do....................
 
FlickerFade said:
Couldn't care less. Stating that you "could care less" means that you do care, at least some, which I don't think that you do....................
Deep...
 
Islandhopper, I have a rising suspicion that you just plain hate haolies. Maybe?
 
FlickerFade said:
Couldn't care less. Stating that you "could care less" means that you do care, at least some, which I don't think that you do....................

You are correct in your assumption.

It seems spelling errors are not the only thing corrected on flightinfo these days. I will be sure to dig out my college writers handbook and study up.....right after I finish this beer.
 
John Pennekamp said:
Islandhopper, I have a rising suspicion that you just plain hate haolies. Maybe?

You can neither spell nor define HAOLE... I got HAOLE PRIDE
 
islandhopper said:
You can neither spell nor define HAOLE... I got HAOLE PRIDE

Haole: mainland prick who comes over and tells locals what to do.

I've spent my time on the North Shore, sonny. Don't think you hold the franchise in all things Hawai'ian.
 
Weasil said:
John Pennekamp This message is hidden because John Pennekamp is on your ignore list.

You should try it island hopper. it's a beautiful thing!

Yeah, I told him what a DORK he is in his leather jacket, and the little crybaby couldn't handle it. Putting me on his ignore list was the best he could do because he couldn't come up with a comeack.

Weasil... you're still a DORK!
 
Wow, we can ignore people here? Sweeeeet.
 
DeltaLima21 said:
You are correct in your assumption.

It seems spelling errors are not the only thing corrected on flightinfo these days. I will be sure to dig out my college writers handbook and study up.....right after I finish this beer.
Is that the beer you stole from the galley cart? Cause we all know you can't even afford a Keystone.
BAAAHAAA
PBR
 
John Pennekamp said:
Haole: mainland prick who comes over and tells locals what to do.

I've spent my time on the North Shore, sonny. Don't think you hold the franchise in all things Hawai'ian.

If this is truly what haole means, then wouldn't you hate them too? Actually haole literally means foreigner, but tends to have slightly varied definitions to locals. Malihini are new comers, who may or may not be mainland pricks. JO is a fukking haole, a prick (who just happens to be from the mainland), and a general scumbag. BTW your okina is in the wrong place sonny. I guess they gave you the short and dirty version of Hawaiian while you "spent your time on the north shore". :D
 
John Pennekamp said:
Haole: mainland prick who comes over and tells locals what to do.

I've spent my time on the North Shore, sonny.
Im not Sonny, and tell me "Mr North Shore", can you pull in at Pipe? If not then STFU wanna be.
 
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PBRstreetgang said:
Is that the beer you stole from the galley cart? Cause we all know you can't even afford a Keystone.
BAAAHAAA
PBR

I can honestly say that I didnt steal it.... not until they start full service on the 1900.
 
Forgive the formatting!

I know I read somewhere that 'haole' literally means 'without breath'. The locals said the white people were 'without breath' when they first came to Hawaii. I can't exactly remember what that means but you get the idea. Edit: (Disregard this and read the article below)

The internet says:

There are 4 matching words.

English word
Hawaiian word

bass(fish)
'O'opu haole

Caucasian
Haole

white man
Haole, 'ilipuakea

foreigner
Kanaka 'e, haole

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/h/haole.html

Haole

by Hugh D. Mailly

In the islands of Hawaii, the word haole is occasionally used to annoy people whose skin is all white. In the past, it was a more broad label stuck on everyone who was not kanaka maoli, a true-person-from-here. But a very long time before that, words in the oldest Hawaiian language had much more special meanings, many to do with occult matters. There were no written letters then, and everything was communicated by sounds-from-the-mouth. In a way, understanding was simpler. Not only could things be shared through sight and sound, but also by feeling the way words were uttered.

It was then that the word haole meant "who-do-not-breathe". In fact, it was used to describe the dead. Sometimes with the truly physical meaning, other times in a more subtle spiritual sense. Often, the two perspectives were mixed together, such as to describe a ghost, or a god.

In the year 1778 of the haole calendar, Captain James Cook of the ship HMS Resolution, and his band of Englishmen came ashore at Kealakekua Bay on what is now known as The Big Island of Hawaii. There is no recorded proof that this landing was deliberately planned as to timing and location. But Cook had already visited several other parts of the island group. He may have been fully aware he was arriving at a sacred place whose name in Hawaiian meant "where-the-god-comes-and-goes", and that he was doing this in the middle of the annual festival to Lono-i-ka-makahiki, supreme head of the pantheon of Hawaiian gods. Lono himself had supposedly left the area a long time prior, but with a promise to return one day, on a floating island. Like the ship Cook sailed in on.

The skin of the English was as white as the huge squares of bleached cloth tied to the masts of their ship. This was considered to be more proof that they were spirits, because only men who do not breathe could possibly be so pale. And so they were called haole.

Despite Cook forbidding it under severe punishment, many of his crew slipped ashore, and infected local wahines with venereal disease they had picked up the year before from a Tahitian-French connection. The Hawaiians had no cure for this new sickness, and thousands eventually died horribly, decimating the native population. Thus, the Hawaiian islands were totally and irrevocably changed, by the coming of the dead ones.
 
Off mesa bashing subject not cool. Haole' means without breath or liar. Because only the white man can speak without breath or soul. That makes him a liar, get it??? and terrain terrain your are still a IAH ******************************bag fag man boy lover. a$$...................
 
OJ on the run! Mr Big mouth controlling his own tounge? I doubt it. He was more likely spanked again by company attorneys for the public briefing he unwittingly gave ALPA at the Royal Hawaiian Pink Palace last week.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mesaairlinesemployeeforum/message/482

--- "Ornstein, Jonathan" <jonathan.ornstein@...> wrote:
>
> Because of the level of antagonism and personal attack I am no longer posting on this board. Most of the people are disgruntled former employees worrying about losing their jobs as a result of Mesa's superior competitivenenss. Ther fears are probably well placed. I am happy to answer any questions you have directed to me throught he company email to which you have immediate access. Thanks, Jonathan
>
 

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