Mesa Go'in Solo.....Hawaii Here they come!!!!

[English]

SJS? Don't you mean SJC?

SJS means Shiny Jet Syndrome.

 

[islandhopper]

BTW: Most of us wouldn't give a S what you say about Mesa -- who really does? The point is you better stop trashing our guys and focus your immature rants on management instead.

yeah or WHAT? you gonne ride in here with JO and take my job? I have never trashed the mesa pilot group. I towed the line for you guys against freedom and it almost cost me my career for standing up for the mesa pilot group.

I got to meet a few AQ celebs today and suffice it to say they are well up to speed on JO's plan for our airline. He talks too much. Aloha!

 

[flyNhawaiian767]

Hawaii is great for anyone that will be living here. Hopefully, they'll run a certain Caravan operator out of business, I'll be very happy.

Nyet.

Think Mesa would let you do hammerheads in their aircraft on empty legs? Pretty sure it would get you fired there too. Word is you really screwed over the guys you worked with. That's hard to overcome in a small place like Hawaii.

Is Aeroflot hiring?

http://www.myspace.com/airbeast

 

[RJP]

Nyet.

Think Mesa would let you do hammerheads in their aircraft on empty legs? Pretty sure it would get you fired there too. Word is you really screwed over the guys you worked with. That's hard to overcome in a small place like Hawaii.

Is Aeroflot hiring?

http://www.myspace.com/airbeast

767, nice research on the link! Though I find it difficult to dislike this kid when he bad-mouths PW.

I wouldn't do a 30 degree bank turn in a DHC-8, much less a hammerhead. Guess I missed out on the Caravan acrobatics.

 

[Airbeast]

Last I checked, I quit like every other person there does after half a year. Tell me that's not the case. Hammerheads in a caravan? I'm sure that'd be all kinds of fun - not. Or did they threaten someone enough to come up with something like that or be fired? You can keep living in the trailer enjoying your make-belief world, trying to put blame on everyone exept where it needs to be. Doesn't matter to me.

I screwed the guys over? Last time I talked to them, according to them - the management is the only one that screwed them once again by taking away everyone's jumpseat privilages, shift trades and finally threatening their jobs if someone didn't come up with something to try and get me in trouble over; once it was known that I was leaving (along with everyone else that quit and then they try to fire). The SICs and PICs are the only ones holding the place together because of God knows why; yet management is too stupid to realize that and keeps screwing.

Since it's such a great place, why is a person #1 on seniority after working there for 5 months? - speaks for itself.

Why do pilots within their first 20 hours of work say they should have went elsewhere, want to quit, hate the company?

Why are there always pissed off passengers because of the screwed up schedule?

Why are captains being paired up? To get their money's worth and not give them an easy day. To preven the SICs from being able to go.

Why does the entire airport hate the place?

Why do they want to snoop through people's email?

Everyone knows the truth...from Aloha captains to places on the east coast.


I enjoyed the flying, met many great people minus the management, didn't complain about working 14 hour days, and got to see the worst possible company with the maturity level of my cat. Now, working anywhere else is delightful. For that you have my thanks!

I'll pass on Aeroflot. And the reason for posting my myspace link is what? I can always use more friends though. You should get one too. That way you'll have more than 3 fingers worth of friends. Should I post some pics of you now? Or the link to all your stupid defending posts. Plus isn't it about time for another news article posting in every subforum about Aloha, Island Air, or Hawaiian?

Every other company has workers that can say good about it. No one besides your own management has anything good to say. You and a couple "others" can go on defending all you want. You're not going to change things. Everyone working there will still hate it and you. Nothing's going to change with the "New Atmosphere". Replacing people will not solve anything. Your days and the company days are numbered. Hope you like the trailer - you'll probably be living in one soon.

Either way, I'm not there now, it doesn't matter. They'll get what they deserve.

To everyone else - sorry for jacking the tread.

Nyet.

Think Mesa would let you do hammerheads in their aircraft on empty legs? Pretty sure it would get you fired there too. Word is you really screwed over the guys you worked with. That's hard to overcome in a small place like Hawaii.

Is Aeroflot hiring?

http://www.myspace.com/airbeast

 

[synchoff]

WTF do you thing JO is going to do? Wake up and listen to your own hotline.

I have no idea how JO is gonna work this deal. Wish I did. I sent him an email asking if this oppotunity would be available for current MAG pilots. I was told that "that would be preferred (YES!)", but would depend on what our "investors" wanted. Nor would he specifify if this would be on an exisiting certificate or a new (or newly acquired) certificate. - - - That being said, I'd love to go fly the islands for a few years while I persist in Mesa purgatory . .

And yah, I suspect this is a broader attempt to undermine Aloha or Hawiian for an eventual takeover. This decision is WAY above my paygrade, so I don't really worry about it - niether should you. Management and ALPA can get pissy about that, I just bid what I can hold . . .

 

[flyNhawaiian767]

Last I checked, I quit like every other person there does after half a year. Tell me that's not the case. Hammerheads in a caravan? I'm sure that'd be all kinds of fun - not. Or did they threaten someone enough to come up with something like that or be fired? You can keep living in the trailer enjoying your make-belief world, trying to put blame on everyone exept where it needs to be. Doesn't matter to me.

I screwed the guys over? Last time I talked to them, according to them - the management is the only one that screwed them once again by taking away everyone's jumpseat privilages, shift trades and finally threatening their jobs if someone didn't come up with something to try and get me in trouble over; once it was known that I was leaving (along with everyone else that quit and then they try to fire). The SICs and PICs are the only ones holding the place together because of God knows why; yet management is too stupid to realize that and keeps screwing.

Since it's such a great place, why is a person #1 on seniority after working there for 5 months? - speaks for itself.

Why do pilots within their first 20 hours of work say they should have went elsewhere, want to quit, hate the company?

Why are there always pissed off passengers because of the screwed up schedule?

Why are captains being paired up? To get their money's worth and not give them an easy day. To preven the SICs from being able to go.

Why does the entire airport hate the place?

Why do they want to snoop through people's email?

Everyone knows the truth...from Aloha captains to places on the east coast.


I enjoyed the flying, met many great people minus the management, didn't complain about working 14 hour days, and got to see the worst possible company with the maturity level of my cat. Now, working anywhere else is delightful. For that you have my thanks!

I'll pass on Aeroflot. And the reason for posting my myspace link is what? I can always use more friends though. You should get one too. That way you'll have more than 3 fingers worth of friends. Should I post some pics of you now? Or the link to all your stupid defending posts. Plus isn't it about time for another news article posting in every subforum about Aloha, Island Air, or Hawaiian?

Every other company has workers that can say good about it. No one besides your own management has anything good to say. You and a couple "others" can go on defending all you want. You're not going to change things. Everyone working there will still hate it and you. Nothing's going to change with the "New Atmosphere". Replacing people will not solve anything. Your days and the company days are numbered. Hope you like the trailer - you'll probably be living in one soon.

Either way, I'm not there now, it doesn't matter. They'll get what they deserve.

To everyone else - sorry for jacking the tread.

Turnng in a resignation after you have been suspended and while on probation for busting company policies and FARS won't change the statements your FOs have made to the company and FAA about your empty leg antics. Doing Hammerheads in the channel between Molokai and Maui; buzzing little beach at 200 feet; flying between the cliffs and rocks on Molokai at 50 feet, etc. etc. etc. Your PRIA will tell the entire story if the LOI doesn't.

Your other problem is that the FO who says you nearly killed him when the engine failed during your last aerobatic stunt has a daddy who is a Captain at a major airline. Apparently he wasn't impressed, and advised junior to come forward with all the facts. Looks like he has, and like you are already making a name for yourself at the majors. Impressive.

Just keep repeating "it doesn't matter" at your revocation hearing. The witnesses will be guys you know. Since they all like you so much, you have nothing to worry about.

 

[RJP]

Where were you when everyone was on here bashing PW a few months ago? You've got plenty of angst to share. It would have added to the thread.

 

[Kevski]

Turnng in a resignation after you have been suspended and while on probation for busting company policies and FARS won't change the statements your FOs have made to the company and FAA about your empty leg antics. Doing Hammerheads in the channel between Molokai and Maui; buzzing little beach at 200 feet; flying between the cliffs and rocks on Molokai at 50 feet, etc. etc. etc. Your PRIA will tell the entire story if the LOI doesn't.

The last time the Pac Wings bashing thread came up, flyNhawaiian767 sure seemed to know a lot about the inner workings of the company, defended their policies and management, and attacked thier detractors... and here we are again.

Why would a 767 pilot be so concerned about a 135 operator with five Caravans? Kinda makes you wonder.

 

[Airbeast]

Turnng in a resignation after you have been suspended and while on probation for busting company policies and FARS won't change the statements your FOs have made to the company and FAA about your empty leg antics. Doing Hammerheads in the channel between Molokai and Maui; buzzing little beach at 200 feet; flying between the cliffs and rocks on Molokai at 50 feet, etc. etc. etc. Your PRIA will tell the entire story if the LOI doesn't.

Your other problem is that the FO who says you nearly killed him when the engine failed during your last aerobatic stunt has a daddy who is a Captain at a major airline. Apparently he wasn't impressed, and advised junior to come forward with all the facts. Looks like he has, and like you are already making a name for yourself at the majors. Impressive.

Just keep repeating "it doesn't matter" at your revocation hearing. The witnesses will be guys you know. Since they all like you so much, you have nothing to worry about.

Hahaha. I'm shaking. Just wish I could have been there for all that - sounds fun. Good job manipulating people once again.

On probation for breaking FARs and company policy? Yeah i'm sure it would go over well telling the FSDO that I get in trouble for writing up a plane and maintenance not noticing it. Like it's my job do be going over squaks for the night. I think many people would consider resigning after that being put ontop of everything else. I'd shut up if I were you unless you want serious stuff spill out on here.

What a loser.

Don't you have some memos to write or signs to order, some backcrunches maybe to get rid of that hump back? Little prick.

 

[Airbeast]

The last time the Pac Wings bashing thread came up, flyNhawaiian767 sure seemed to know a lot about the inner workings of the company, defended their policies and management, and attacked thier detractors... and here we are again.

Why would a 767 pilot be so concerned about a 135 operator with five Caravans? Kinda makes you wonder.

The closest he'll ever get to a 767 is watching one fly by while putting around in the company skyhawk.

All he is is a paranoid prick little SIC that turned some kind of worthless manager that everyone there can't stand and doesn't know what he's there for. Other captains say he can't even fly the Caravan. Never would fly with me though. Good for him, otherwise he'd probably be dumped into the Pacific. He does what he does best. Slithering around, ordering stickers, writing stupid memos to have something to do, calling the tower to make sure the airport security has a clearance to be on a taxiway, telling other operators how they should park, telling pilots to park in Island Air's space in Honolulu because it's first come first serve, lieing and screwing people over as you can even see here.

"I had a PW jumpseater the other day that told me..." - then the "jumpseater" starts spilling all the details. Yeah

Time for a new nickname flyNhawaiian767. flyNlieing172 maybe?

 

[flyNhawaiian767]

Don't you have some memos to write or signs to order, some backcrunches maybe to get rid of that hump back? Little prick.

Been posting here long before you and your hunchback gremlins washed up (or out as the case may be). Don't hate the messenger -- you fired the first shot.

Ask yourself instead why an AA jumpseter would be talking about a 135 Captain nearly killing his son doing aerobatics on an empty leg over the channel. If you want to air your business publicly, start by coming clean about what you did. The more personal your attacks become, the more desperate and agitated you seem.

Good luck!

 

[mdanno808]

WTF are you two babbling about? These thread-jacking a$$holes from Hawaii are the people you MESA guy's are going to have to put up with come February. Good luck.

 

[Kevski]

All he is is a paranoid prick little SIC that turned some kind of worthless manager that everyone there can't stand and doesn't know what he's there for.

You mean the guy that calls for a forklift whenever he wants to leave the office...err...trailer?

 

[vmc-hound]

The savior of the "regional Airlines".....

 

[VanMan]

Doesn't matter to me. It doesn't matter. They'll get what they deserve.

Then WTF are you going on for pages about crap that doesn't matter? Amazing you can fit in the cockpit with that chip on your sholder. So they canned your whiny ass. Get over it.

 

[Airbeast]

If you two really care about the company, try and change your ways. Everyone will be more happy. I mean it in a friendly way.

Good luck

Then WTF are you going on for pages about crap that doesn't matter? Amazing you can fit in the cockpit with that chip on your sholder. So they canned your whiny ass. Get over it.

 

[splatattack]

myspace or yourspace

I'll pass on Aeroflot. And the reason for posting my myspace link is what? I can always use more friends though. You should get one too. That way you'll have more than 3 fingers worth of friends. Should I post some pics of you now? Or the link to all your stupid defending posts. Plus isn't it about time for another news article posting in every subforum about Aloha, Island Air, or Hawaiian?

Hey there Airbeast. Do u have some pics of this 767 guy? I would love to see them.

 

[splatattack]

Hahaha. I'm shaking. Just wish I could have been there for all that - sounds fun. Good job manipulating people once again.

On probation for breaking FARs and company policy? Yeah i'm sure it would go over well telling the FSDO that I get in trouble for writing up a plane and maintenance not noticing it. Like it's my job do be going over squaks for the night. I think many people would consider resigning after that being put ontop of everything else. I'd shut up if I were you unless you want serious stuff spill out on here.

What a loser.

Don't you have some memos to write or signs to order, some backcrunches maybe to get rid of that hump back? Little prick.

Hey again Airbeast. I heard from a reliable source that this guy really does have a hump back but its not really his fault. Good call. This girl I know that knows him really well said that he has a donkey d*ck. Its so huge she says that it weighs the front of him down causing the back thing. She said that he actually has a tripod going on down there. Thought you might like to know that. Please post some pics if you got some cause we all wanna see.

 

[Mesa Beer]

If you two really care about the company, try and change your ways. Everyone will be more happy. I mean it in a friendly way.

Good luck

airbeast i like motorcycles too. Wanna work for me? Do you like gladiator movies?

 

[RJP]

The closest he'll ever get to a 767 is watching one fly by while putting around in the company skyhawk.

All he is is a paranoid prick little SIC that turned some kind of worthless manager that everyone there can't stand and doesn't know what he's there for. Other captains say he can't even fly the Caravan. Never would fly with me though. Good for him, otherwise he'd probably be dumped into the Pacific. He does what he does best. Slithering around, ordering stickers, writing stupid memos to have something to do, calling the tower to make sure the airport security has a clearance to be on a taxiway, telling other operators how they should park, telling pilots to park in Island Air's space in Honolulu because it's first come first serve, lieing and screwing people over as you can even see here.

"I had a PW jumpseater the other day that told me..." - then the "jumpseater" starts spilling all the details. Yeah

Time for a new nickname flyNhawaiian767. flyNlieing172 maybe?

This answers a lot of questions from other threads. We all heard from PW pilots about their mgmt telling them to park in WP spots just to piss us off. Too bad our little friend didn't come out of the trailer to beef with us while we were at the CAT. But then again, he'll have fun when Mesa starts parking there.

By the way, you're on probation for thread-jacking now. We were supposed to bitching about Mesa and hearing from their pilots how great it is.

 

[VanMan]

Too bad our little friend didn't come out of the trailer to beef with us while we were at the CAT.

Did anyone even have to leave the trailer to get Island Air evicted from the CAT? Didn't they do it all over the phone? Remember how Neil & Richard told the press they would never leave, and how the main terminal was completely unsuitable for your operations? Mmmmm. Good times.

Isn't PW also the reason you will no longer be doing your dorky parallel parking thing with the Dash-8 at the main terminal on Maui after October? Looks like having you relocated to the main terminal in HNL is the only thing left on their to do list, because you have pretty much been forced to do everything else they wanted.

If you can't stand up to your smallest competitor you don't have a prayer against Mesa. Why waste valuable time carrying this grudge against PW when you could be spending it on the resume you're going to need. Don't worry though, plenty of jobs out there for aging, cynical Dash-8 drivers. Maybe PW will take you back.

 

[RJP]

Did anyone even have to leave the trailer to get Island Air evicted from the CAT? Didn't they do it all over the phone? Remember how Neil & Richard told the press they would never leave, and how the main terminal was completely unsuitable for your operations? Mmmmm. Good times.

Isn't PW also the reason you will no longer be doing your dorky parallel parking thing with the Dash-8 at the main terminal on Maui after October? Looks like having you relocated to the main terminal in HNL is the only thing left on their to do list, because you have pretty much been forced to do everything else they wanted.

If you can't stand up to your smallest competitor you don't have a prayer against Mesa. Why waste valuable time carrying this grudge against PW when you could be spending it on the resume you're going to need. Don't worry though, plenty of jobs out there for aging, cynical Dash-8 drivers. Maybe PW will take you back.

Great to see you crawled back out from under the rock that's under your trailer. It's been quite a while without your whitty insight.

If you can work it out that WP is somewhere closer to a starbucks in HNL, we'll all be grateful. OGG has been a huge improvement over the CAT. Mahalos.

I'm working on my resume to get back to PW but I probably don't have enough single-engine SIC time.

 

[mdanno808]

It's official that the thread has been jacked by HI state.