Mesa Air Group - Go! Operation, Hawaii

[slatsnfive]

I have heard, over the years, that the Go operation is closing, and nothing has ever materialized. I have recently heard concrete evidence, that the Go operation in Hawaii is to be closed, near the end of the year, anyone hear similar?

slatsnfive

 

[dooork]

I have heard, over the years, that the Go operation is closing, and nothing has ever materialized. I have recently heard concrete evidence, that the Go operation in Hawaii is to be closed, near the end of the year, anyone hear similar?

slatsnfive

That would require mgt making wise decisions.

 

[Torpid]

Maybe the best argument that this may be true is that Hawaiian is acquiring 3 more 717's in the next 3 months.

 

[homerjdispatch]

I have heard, over the years, that the Go operation is closing, and nothing has ever materialized. I have recently heard concrete evidence, that the Go operation in Hawaii is to be closed, near the end of the year, anyone hear similar?

slatsnfive

If its "concrete evidence", then why ask????? Or did you mean, "unsubstantiated rumor"?

MESA SUCKS!

 

[slatsnfive]

If its "concrete evidence", then why ask????? Or did you mean, "unsubstantiated rumor"?

MESA SUCKS!

homerjdispatch,

I stand corrected. I heard an "unsubstantiated rumor." Yet, it was from reputable individuals. That being said, unless it's printed in the DOT statistics page, which is required prior to an airline seizing operations, it has yet to be seen.

Question was simply to see what the pilot community has heard.

slatsnfive

 

[brokedash]

I have also heard unsubstantiated speculation regarding the shuttering of Go!

Could the OP share more details such as there source?

Go! is simply a marketing brand operating under the Mesa Cert, so its demise may not require publication on the DOT record being it is not it's own certificated operator.

 

[rickair7777]

I have a buddy over there (Go) who heard enough believable rumors that we was convinced, so he quit and took a corporate job. FWIW

 

[Poahi]

Here's another go! aircraft that found its way to Victorville.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASH1100

PHX-VCV.

 

[Poahi]

I have also heard unsubstantiated speculation regarding the shuttering of Go!

Could the OP share more details such as there source?

Go! is simply a marketing brand operating under the Mesa Cert, so its demise may not require publication on the DOT record being it is not it's own certificated operator.

I am not an expert here, but go!/Mokulele is the only operation that Mesa has that operates its own schedule. There are DOT requirements for reporting passenger stats and I imagine if there were a notice requirement, it would apply. It would be interesting to see how Republic would deal with its interest in the JV. Would Mr. Boyer buy it back? What would happen to the Caravans? Republic still has a vacant hangar to deal with. Mesa would have helped itself better if it allowed Republic to stay and continue to drain resources. Looks like the opposite happened.

go!/Mokulele missed its chance to reorganize during the bankruptcy and may pay for it with its life.

 

[slatsnfive]

Here's another go! aircraft that found its way to Victorville.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASH1100

PHX-VCV.

Poahi,

This would mean they're only operating three aircraft in total, as I believe they were operating four previously correct?

slatsnfive

 

[rene]

Poahi,

This would mean they're only operating three aircraft in total, as I believe they were operating four previously correct?

slatsnfive

No plans to close Go, we operate 5 aircraft with 4 lines of flying. C checks scheduled through December so 4 aircraft and 3 lines until then.

 

[Poahi]

Poahi,

This would mean they're only operating three aircraft in total, as I believe they were operating four previously correct?

slatsnfive

The last time I talked to a pilot at go!, they were operating 3 lines of flying plus a spare. September bookings usually fall off a cliff, so I don't know for sure if that has changed.

Why they would send an aircraft to VCV in the middle of a busy holiday weekend is beyond me. And stopping in LAX instead of direct PHX is unusual. Maybe it was winds, or maybe they didn't have all the ferry tanks installed.

I count 44 flights today, arguably one of the busiest days in a while. Looking at the departure times, you could operate 3+ aircraft to make the schedule. The last flight to LIH departs at 17:51.

http://hnlairportweb.com/hnlflights/airlinedepartures.asp

 

[brokedash]

The Go! jet that went to VCV is getting paint for USX. It will serve out the rest of the USX contract. No plans for a replacement AC out in HNL have been announced yet.

In other news Mesa purchased an old Skywest 200 last week. It is reported to be a parts plane, joining a Mesa 200 withdrawn from service and currently serving in that same role. They'll both need flat beds to get out of PHX.

 

[brokedash]

No plans to close Go, we operate 5 aircraft with 4 lines of flying. C checks scheduled through December so 4 aircraft and 3 lines until then.

To the contrary I have heard things that might happen that spell the end for Go!.

 

[rene]

The Go! jet that went to VCV is getting paint for USX. It will serve out the rest of the USX contract. No plans for a replacement AC out in HNL have been announced yet.

In other news Mesa purchased an old Skywest 200 last week. It is reported to be a parts plane, joining a Mesa 200 withdrawn from service and currently serving in that same role. They'll both need flat beds to get out of PHX.

It is only going to fly for UX for several weeks then into C check then back to Hawaii depending upon the wind down schedule for the 200's at airways? In December Go will be back to 4 lines of flying and 5 aircraft.

 

[Metro752]

Heard you guys are done in less than 6 months because of the cash hemorrhage and kirby.

 

[rene]

To the contrary I have heard things that might happen that spell the end for Go!.

Whatever you may have heard is BS. Go will go on.

 

[say again]

Whatever you may have heard is BS. Go will go on.

How can you be so certain?

 

[brokedash]

Whatever you may have heard is BS. Go will go on.

What proof do you have?

 

[slatsnfive]

Update:

Mesa operated four planes under the Go banner, as of recent.

One aircraft was sent back on Saturday, as posted by Poahi with flight aware tracking, thank you. In addition, one plane is cannibalized on the ramp in Honolulu. That leaves two operating aircraft in total.


slatsnfive

 

[rene]

Update:

Mesa operated four planes under the Go banner, as of recent.

One aircraft was sent back on Saturday, as posted by Poahi with flight aware tracking, thank you. In addition, one plane is cannibalized on the ramp in Honolulu. That leaves two operating aircraft in total.


slatsnfive

I am 100% certain that there are no plans to eliminate or downsize Go. One aircraft was sent to C check saturday by way of Victorville where it will be painted white for use as an airways spare for the next 4-6 weeks. It will then be in C check until mid December. One Go aircraft is undergoing minor repairs in HNL (it will be back in service today or tomorrow) that leaves 4 aircraft with 3 lines of flying until December when Go will be back to 5 aircraft and 4 lines. We may add additional aircraft as we wind down the 200's at Airways.

Trust me this is a non issue, move onto to a more news worthy subject, please and stop spreading stupid rumors and lies.

 

[slatsnfive]

I am 100% certain that there are no plans to eliminate or downsize Go. One aircraft was sent to C check saturday by way of Victorville where it will be painted white for use as an airways spare for the next 4-6 weeks. It will then be in C check until mid December. One Go aircraft is undergoing minor repairs in HNL (it will be back in service today or tomorrow) that leaves 4 aircraft with 3 lines of flying until December when Go will be back to 5 aircraft and 4 lines. We may add additional aircraft as we wind down the 200's at Airways.

Trust me this is a non issue, move onto to a more news worthy subject, please and stop spreading stupid rumors and lies.

rene,

Thank you for the clarification.

slatsnfive

 

[Jetjockey]

Trust me this is a non issue, move onto to a more news worthy subject, please and stop spreading stupid rumors and lies.

That would describe most posts on FI

 

[freightrash]

there is possibility, RAH pulls out and restart mokulele with caravan drivers. So they can restart the SLI arbitrations again and further dragging out the negotiation! Perfect!

 

[sniper]

I am 100% certain that there are no plans to eliminate or downsize Go. One aircraft was sent to C check saturday by way of Victorville where it will be painted white for use as an airways spare for the next 4-6 weeks. It will then be in C check until mid December. One Go aircraft is undergoing minor repairs in HNL (it will be back in service today or tomorrow) that leaves 4 aircraft with 3 lines of flying until December when Go will be back to 5 aircraft and 4 lines. We may add additional aircraft as we wind down the 200's at Airways.

Trust me this is a non issue, move onto to a more news worthy subject, please and stop spreading stupid rumors and lies.

Atrue VP of mesa under the name Rene on FI but Chris between 8-5

 

[Poahi]

Sooner or later Mesa is going to have to address the steady loss of market share. As the travel industry stabilizes, someone is going to come in and take even more market share.

 

[rene]

Sooner or later Mesa is going to have to address the steady loss of market share. As the travel industry stabilizes, someone is going to come in and take even more market share.

The travel industry hasn't had a stable year since Wilbur and Orville flew that first flight. What regional company is any better or stable? If you ask me, they are all at risk of bankruptcy as contracts expire before the leases do.

 

[Poahi]

The travel industry hasn't had a stable year since Wilbur and Orville flew that first flight. What regional company is any better or stable? If you ask me, they are all at risk of bankruptcy as contracts expire before the leases do.

This thread is about go!.
go!/Mokulele's only competitor is doing quite well and adding flights and market share and enjoys pricing power.

If you are talking about parent Mesa, there is no doubt to most of us that the calamity is a reflection on management. Better and more stable regionals include Skywest, RAH and Pinnacle. Mesa's outlook appears weak and staffing levels appear to support that view.

 

[Taco Rocket]

The travel industry hasn't had a stable year since Wilbur and Orville flew that first flight. What regional company is any better or stable? If you ask me, they are all at risk of bankruptcy as contracts expire before the leases do.

So true. I must agree.

And if you weant to take a longer historical view in general look at the history of railroads in the US. Similar labor issues. Profits/losses based on macro events out of their control. Supersized egos moving pawns across the board. Not making a dime (overall) since their conception.

 

[mesaserf]

I have wondered if they would not put some 700s out there as the UAL contract goes away.