Media is on every lost comm now

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35 minutes lost comm. Wow, that's important news now. You too can make the 6 o'clock news.

Air Canada A320 near Denver on Nov 5th 2009, loss comm for 35 minutes

An Air Canada Airbus A320-200, registration C-FKOJ performing flight AC-795 from Toronto,ON (Canada) to Los Angeles,CA (USA) with 122 people on board, was enroute near Denver,CO (USA) having established contact with Denver ARTCC, when Denver ARTCC lost radio contact with the aircraft. Denver attempted to contact the airplane on the primary frequency several times, then contacted Air Canada Dispatch to send ACARS messages to the airplane, however the airplane could not be reached via ACARS, too. SELCAL failed as well. About 35 minutes later, when Denver used an airborne relay, communication was re-established and the ACARS messages sent by dispatch went through. The airplane continued to Los Angeles for a safe landing.

The Canadian TSB reported, that Denver ARTCC at no time attempted to reach the airplane via the emergency frequency 121.5 MHz, which was continuously monitored by the flight crew. The aircraft was visible on radar all time, no loss of separation occured, the airplane followed its flight plan and previously acknowledged ATC clearances with no deviation.
 

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Interesting DEN never tried 121.5.
 

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Probably because 121.5 has become so saturated they couldn't get a call in. Since "the incident" I hear more calls in a single flight on 121.5 than I used to hear in a month.
 

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Sounds like Denver center is to blame!

Entirely possible and most likely. But the News media will not be happy until a Jetliner is shot down for running off (flying out of reception range) the Frequency without getting a hand off from the Center controller.

I have had it happen from time to time with no Laptop in sight !!


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Those Airbus' have dangerous defects and need to be grounded
 

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they probably tried to call them and got blocked with 10 "you're on guard" transmissions....
 

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I'm sure they couldn't get through because every airliner captain within a 10 mile radius (75 aircraft) was asking for a ride report and then asking for a ride report at every flight level from 240 to 410. What is it with guys asking for ride reports these days? It didn't happen all that much in the not so distant past. If you don't like the ride you're getting then go somewhere else. Just go. Do you have to ask first? Is it really that hard to push a button and see what happens? Or how about just listening to everyone around you at all the altitudes and pick the one who reports the best and then you never have to ask. This ride report business has gotten totally out of hand.

Oh, and Airbus pilots (i'm one of 'em) who goes on speaker out of 18 will be guaranteed to miss 80% of all radio calls. I've seen it happen too many times. My policy is if one goes on speaker then the other guy has to stay on headset.
 
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I'm sure they couldn't get through because every airliner captain within a 10 mile radius (75 aircraft) was asking for a ride report and then asking for a ride report at every flight level from 240 to 410. What is it with guys asking for ride reports these days? It didn't happen all that much in the not so distant past. If you don't like the ride you're getting then go somewhere else. Just go. Do you have to ask first? Is it really that hard to push a button and see what happens? Or how about just listening to everyone around you at all the altitudes and pick the one who reports the best and then you never have to ask. This ride report business has gotten totally out of hand.

Oh, and Airbus pilots (i'm one of 'em) who goes on speaker out of 18 will be guaranteed to miss 80% of all radio calls. I've seen it happen too many times. My policy is if one goes on speaker then the other guy has to stay on headset.
19000 hrs and you don't understand why someone might want to know the ride conditions before changing altitude? Just change altitude and see what happens? Are you serious? I am amazed at the stupidity sometimes.
 
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