MD11 Crash

[filejw]

Guys lets chill just a minute. I think he was quoting an article in a Shanghai newspaper and they would be using a Chinese English speaker to translate. Not a perfect science.

 

[Fox-Tree]

Was this a World Airways crash? I can't think of any other MD-11 operator off the top of my head (aside from UPS and FedEx).

Let's see..........

KLM
EVA
Lufthansa
China Eastern
Shanghai
Martinair
Aeroflot
Centurion

To name a few.

 

[St. Nic]

Let's see..........

KLM
EVA
Lufthansa
China Eastern
Shanghai
Martinair
Aeroflot
Centurion

To name a few.

Golly! Thanks a lot mr FDX man!

 

[Cowboy75]

I did a google search and nothing came up. Thanks for the encouraging, team building character you openly share. You represent your class well. While you are at it, you might want to bash Sully a little more, it's been a few days since you last did that.

Well, I did a Google search myself and had no problem finding multiple articles on this tradgedy.

I have no problem representing a class of pilots who were employed prior to the acquisition only to be replaced by pilots who were furloughed. No need to lecture me about character, St. Nic.

I'll give you a review of the scheme you seem so proud to promote:

After shopping several law firms, a group of East Pilots found a law firm willing to guide, indeed promote, a scheme of advancing East Pilot seniority rights to the detriment of West Pilot seniority rights. This law firm, Seham, Seham, Meltz & Petersen, LLP, advised the East Pilots that, with majority status, they could create USAPA and use it to promote their seniority interests in disregard of the Nicolau Award. Mr. Seham told them, relying on his tortured reading of Rakestraw, that USAPA could advance East Pilot interests to the detriment of West Pilot interests so long as there was any rational relation to a legitimate union objective, regardless of USAPA's actual motives.

USAPA, while guided by its legal advisor, left quite an evidentiary trail of bad faith. Much of that trail was apparently created to garner political support among East Pilots who wanted a union that would advance their majority interests over those of the West Pilot minority. USAPA, with legal guidance, acted while motivated by that bad faith. It drafted a constitution intended to create a pretext defining a duty to disregard the Nicolau Award. It made campaign promises to disregard the Nicolau Award. Once elected, it embarked on a preordained course to disregard the Nicolau Award. It did all these things solely for illegitimate motives.

USAPA left the West Pilots no option but to institute this litigation. Plaintiffs filed this action after the Airline announced plans to reduce service in a manner that would burden West Pilots far more than they would have been burdened if the transition to Operational Pilot Integration had occurred as intended. USAPA selected the Seham law firm to handle its defense. In essence, therefore, the Seham law firm was put in a position of defending both itself for advising USAPA to take the actions that led to this lawsuit and USAPA for following that advice.

 

[flygirlqt]

Good lord...can we please show some respect and at least keep this USAPA crap, and other stupid comments off a thread with this tragedy? People lost their lives, families are irretrievably broken.

 

[Cowboy75]

Good lord...can we please show some respect and at least keep this USAPA crap, and other stupid comments off a thread with this tragedy? People lost their lives, families are irretrievably broken.

I agree with you post for the most part and pray for the families of those lost.

The author of this thread, St Nic, has no business lecturing me about character or integrity when he promotes a sceme against fellow pilots.

He started the thread even though there was plenty of information posted about this tradgedy on the internet.

 

[Lear70]

Guys lets chill just a minute. I think he was quoting an article in a Shanghai newspaper and they would be using a Chinese English speaker to translate. Not a perfect science.

That's why I'm giving him a day to explain himself and not just suspending him right off the bat. He's being given the benefit of the doubt for the moment...

Good lord...can we please show some respect and at least keep this USAPA crap, and other stupid comments off a thread with this tragedy? People lost their lives, families are irretrievably broken.

Absolutely.

If this even HINTS at degenerating into a USAPA thread, it'll get moved and locked for a while. Let's be respectful of people whose love for aviation cost them their lives. Whether it was pilot error, weather, or mechanical, they still deserve a moment of respect. Keep the USAPA comments on the USAPA threads.

 

[SFR]

Ok, Lo siento cabrone

 

[SFR]

Oh...please, don't suspend me..!!! I can't live without coming on here for flamebait and useless knowledge!! Please....NO....

All I care is that my check gets direct deposited on Tues.... other than that....cancel my damn account!


MPUF!!!!! MPUF!!!!!

 

[Lear70]

Thanks for the apology, albeit in Spanish.

If you'd truly like to cancel your account, you can do so in your account settings.

Thanks,

 

[Kharma Police]

Thanks for the apology, albeit in Spanish.

If you'd truly like to cancel your account, you can do so in your account settings.

Thanks,

Not sure if you can call it an apology. A "cabrón" is a man whose wife or girlfriend is screwing around on him and he knows it yet does nothing.

 

[Whine Lover]

Oh...please, don't suspend me..!!! I can't live without coming on here for flamebait and useless knowledge!! Please....NO....

All I care is that my check gets direct deposited on Tues.... other than that....cancel my damn account!


MPUF!!!!! MPUF!!!!!

Lear,

I would say that his insincere spanish apology, the completely inappropriate original comment, and the above mockery and childish additional response would all be great reasons to get rid of this individual.

Permanently. ( As he has requested. )

I will thank you, I believe ALL of FI would thank you, and ultimately Sean will probably thank you too, as his postings here will no longer be forwarded by his "friends" to certain individuals that might have an effect on his career.


YKW

 

[Going2Baja]

Lear,

I would say that his insincere spanish apology, the completely inappropriate original comment, and the above mockery and childish additional response would all be great reasons to get rid of this individual.

Permanently. ( As he has requested. )

I thank you, I believe ALL of FI would thank you........

I TOTALLY agree!!! At minimum, time off for lame behavior!!

Baja.

 

[landlover]

he needs a least 2 weeks in the box

 

[CTflyer]

I'm giving you 24 hours to explain why you were not insulting a crew who just lost their life.

After that, if you haven't responded appropriately in this thread and apologized if your post wasn't simply a poorly-chosen word arrangement, I'm giving you a 10 day vacation to think about it.

Ease up moderator...I think he was asking if the crew was from American Airlines...That was my initial first impression when I read the post from Cardinal and then I thought he meant they were US citizens...