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satpak77 said:is it just me or as a PAX does it seem that all MD-80's land pretty darn hard, regardless of carrier?
or is it just the Fly Navy crews I have had lately?
enigma said:Obviously, you haven't flown with me
I ride in the back quite frequently as a commuter and on company deadheads. I'm usually on AA, and I can say that the AA Super80 crews do a real good job of landing the bird.
The -80 isn't easy to land, but doing so is possible. The location of the mains is significantly aft of the pitch rotation point, so a normal landing rotation actually drives the mains down. Once you learn to flare early, then PUSH over at about the point of touchdown, you'll roll it on every time. Unfortunately, even after thousands of hours in the airplane, it still takes a conscious effort to push when your reflexes want to pull.
enigma
Pilot877 said:That sounds a lot like the DC-10, too. If you flare too late, you drive the mains into the runway.
flx757 said:If you "fly" it on to the runway, it is very easy to get consistently good landings in the MD-80. I never subscribed to the "push" theory. I don't believe in it, I don't use it, I don't teach it. Good technique is all that is required. Don't over-rotate in the flare, know the pitch attitude required, flare just enough to break the descent, then hold it. It smoothly rolls on.
bobs98tlr said:No offense to the FedEx guys but i see that pretty frequently with them.
Pilot877 said:You're kidding, right? That's probably one of the finest group of aviators in the business. I'm sure they don't suck like that.