McPeak backs Kerry

[YeOldeProp]

Here's some more to the story from SMOE on how the 1st SOW got railroaded in the points game by McPeak and his travelling snake-oil friends. Not only were aerial victories worth points, but the number of aces you had in the unit counted for big points (and yes, there were a few aces from the spec ops side). But dear old Merrill felt there should be no points for those who were awarded the Medal of Honor (think there were 5 from the history of the 1st SOW). I can remember one of our long time O-6's ready to explode when the number crunching came out in our favor, then reversed by the scam SMOE tells us about.

McPeak also scammed Congress when he implemented the composite wing process and put it in motion without getting the go ahead from Congress or the JCS to spend the money to do so. AF went into debt and took a couple of hard knocks in the budget process for years due to McPeaks arrogance and total disregard to the logistics required. But he did it with a great cover...the new uniform shenanigans were all over the front pages and being bitched about in every bar and barbershop in the military. Pretty good diversion...a few million dollars of uniform change versus billions of dollars of structure change. Those who survived the composite wing process can fill us in on whether it was worth it or not...
Not really the kind of ex-military politician I want running part of the USA...

 

[KC-10 Driver]

I don't like to get into political threads on this forum, but I just had to reply to this one...

The sad thing is that the general public will see McPeak as a retired 4-star, and that is all. They won't know about the mess he made, or about the multitude of terrrible things his legacy left behind.

Kerry gets the worst CSAF in history to endorse him, and the public only sees the 4-stars on his shoulders.

 

[TonyC]

You mean you guys didn't like the flightsuits with epaulettes and extra zippers on the hips?




I've not heard a single good thing about McPeak, except maybe that his "transformation" of the Air Force helped convince me to get out.

 

[KC-10 Driver]

One other thing about McPeak...

He had made some comments about one of the Academy T-3 crashes several years ago (the one in 1996 which killed a classmate of mine).

My classmate, the IP of the T-3, had previously been a C-141 pilot. McPeak supposedly said that had the IP been a fighter pilot instead of an airlift pilot, then the crash probably would have never occurred.

That was the ultimate in arrogance and insensitivity. Even worse from someone in his position.

 

[jointops]

OK, OK,

I can't resist another story of 'DA MAN. Flew C-21s out of Andrews while he was Mr. Head Honcho. Typical DV mission for him. Get the aircraft ready to go and re-positioned in front of Base Ops an hour prior to his arrival.

He shows up (late as usual) and during the taxi out he finally turns to the IP and tells him to "Screw the checklist, we're late."

We're holding short and without clearance he begins to taxi onto the active runway. When the IP questions what he's doing (followed shortly by the tower) he replies, "This is ridiculous, don't they know who I am?"

We finally make it up to Bedford and he's obviously aiming for brick one and the IP comments that he seems to be aiming short. No change in pitch. Again, IP comments. NADA. Tower directs him to go around. No reaction from him at all. IP physically and verbally takes control of aircraft and he wouldn't relinquish control. I couldn't believe this idiot was allowed to fly.

When I'd heard he endorsed Kerry I knew which side of the fence I'd land on. Actually I knew 4 years ago, but you get the point.

Happy landings

 

[Benhuntn]

Hammer Head

Hey Tony

If your out there reading these things being said about you, I just want you to know, I was saying them when you were the CSAF. You have always been the number one "hammer head" in the Air Force. By the way, wanna buy an AF uniform that looks like a Navy uniform. I suppose not since you probably have ten of the outdated pieces of crap already. Thanks for endorsing kerry, now I know which way to go. BUSH

Murf

 

[JimNtexas]

McPeak, I remember him on the Democrat response on Saturday, he said he was CSAF during ODS, was he the CSAF that got relived for talking to the media, or was he the replacement of that guy?

You're thinking about General Mike Dugan. McPeak was Air Combat Command Commander at the time, and was picked as Dugan's replacement.

Dugan did tend to run at the mouth a little, but at least he was clearly from planet earth.

 

[F16TJ]

Kerry, Clark, McPeak...

The three most despised veterans of the military. What a lineup!

 

[miles otoole]

I saw an interview today with Tommy Franks just after he said he would support Bush. Hilarious as he mentioned that he was about the only 4 star retiree who didn't attend the DNC in Boston.

I'd love to see Tommy Franks debate Wesley Clark at ANY US Army Fort.

 

[Purple Haze]

I'd love to see Tommy Franks debate Wesley Clark at ANY US Army Fort.

How 'bout just a good old fashioned fist fight: Tommy vs. Wesley and Merrill (Tony) and JFK (Kerry).

I believe I would pay money to see that A.W.

 

[KC-10 Driver]

Does anyone know if Gen Fogleman has made an endorsement?

 

[Draginass]

It took me many years to forget about Steamboat Willie.

Thanks for reminding me about incompetent psychos . . . and when I think of Steamboat Willie, I think of "Viking" (Gen Borling) and his 15 ways to dive bomb in a B-52.

 

[Stump]

He was actually the Commander of Pacific Air Forces (PACAF) when he was picked to succeed Gen Dugan.

Stump