McKinley suggests F-18 for ANG, C-27J out..

[bssthound]

Haywood's posts reek of DaveGriffin. For someone that just joined the forum 6 days ago (about the time I ignored him), I'd have to say it's more than coincidence.

Wow. You beat me to the punch. First thing came to my mind. I don't know about anyone else, but I think you're pretty durn smart, Sig!!!!

 

[Heywood Jablomi]

The Air FOrce had C-27s until the late 1990s at Howard in Panama. Even though every other service wanted them the Air Force didn't and they used the excuse of pulling out of Panama to get rid of them. Now there is a proven need and the Air Force wants their toy back.

Give the C-27 to the Army. They will appreciate them and know how to use them.

The C-27s in Panama were 'A' models. The Air Force had Chrysler doing contract maitenance support for them. They beat the crap out of those airplanes and then complained about their reliability.

The Army is buying J model C-27s. They are really pretty good. Since most of the C-27s will be in the Amy Guard, the Air Force will never be able to muster the political power to take them away. In fact, this is part of the reason that the president sh!t canned the AF secretary and that sack of sh!t Mosely. "Thanks for playing. Go clean out your desk!"

Except to try and screw up the Army, I guarantee that the Air Force doesn't want them back. The Army validated a requirement for 75 airplanes. The Air Force vadlidated the requirement for zero airplanes.

 

[Big Wave]

Since most of the C-27s will be in the Amy Guard...

"Amy Guard"--tasked with protecting the Amys of America. Amy Yasbeck, Amy Adams, Amy Fisher, Amy Grant...you may sleep soundly in your beds tonight--your Amy Guard is on the job!

 

[Heywood Jablomi]

"Amy Guard"--tasked with protecting the Amys of America. Amy Yasbeck, Amy Adams, Amy Fisher, Amy Grant...you may sleep soundly in your beds tonight--your Amy Guard is on the job!

Whoops!

 

[414Flyer]

Block 6x Vipers would be the best bet. Line is still open. A "land based" Super Hornet would require a whole new airplane, although with about a 5000 # diet to shed all the bulk of carrier aviation, it would be a sweet ride.

Northrop had an F-18L in the 80s proposal they were trying to get buyers for, it was a F/A-18A without any carrier gear.

 

[4 Fan Trashcan]

No one in the Air Force wants to fly C-130s or have anything to do with supporting the Army.

The Air Forcce couldn't care less about the guys on the ground.

Astounding. You're either completely ignorant, flame baiting or both. Either way, congrats...you just made my ignore list. Now get lost.

 

[SIG600]

Northrop had an F-18L in the 80s proposal they were trying to get buyers for, it was a F/A-18A without any carrier gear.

Make it a C model with 402 motors and that would be little hot rod.

 

[erj-145mech]

Northrop had an F-18L in the 80s proposal they were trying to get buyers for, it was a F/A-18A without any carrier gear.

That was the YF-17, and it was in the 70's:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_YF-17

 

[Fox-Tree]

That was the YF-17, and it was in the 70's:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_YF-17

No. It was the F-18L and it was the 80s.

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher4/f18_9.html

 

[Heywood Jablomi]

Astounding. You're either completely ignorant, flame baiting or both. Either way, congrats...you just made my ignore list. Now get lost.

Or maybe I've got 20+ years of being disapointed by non-support from flat-dicks in shiny silk scarves.

 

[ALIMBO]

Honestly performance number wise is the F-16 better or worse than the F-18 at air to air and air to ground? Being an air force guy I'm going to lean towards the 16.

 

[JungleJett]

Haywood...

20 years with the Salvation Army does not count.

Isn't there a thread for COD players you could be hyping your "military" service on?

 

[SIG600]

Honestly performance number wise is the F-16 better or worse than the F-18 at air to air and air to ground? Being an air force guy I'm going to lean towards the 16.

All things being equal, I'd give the edge to the Hornet, in particular the Marine Corps D's with LITNING Pods, for a lot of reasons. In today's real world environment I'll give it up to the Viper. You guys don't have to worry about recovery times at the boat which gives you all the loiter you need. As long as there's gas airborne, there's a runway waiting for you. Not so with us. On that same note, we have to balance ordnance load with gas when it comes to our max trap weight. The more bombs you bring home, the less gas you can have, and having no gas around the boat can get ugly fast... so it's risk mitigation. Or we can carry a sh1t ton, and jettison it but that gets expensive after about 3 days. The higher level of risk we accept, the more bombs we'll sling. You guys can carry everything under the sun, and bring it all back.

 

[HooverPilot]

Haywood...

20 years with the Salvation Army does not count.

Isn't there a thread for COD players you could be hyping your "military" service on?

Hey, don't hate on the COD, pick something bad like the P-3. You have to get off the ship for Admin Queen somehow don't you?!

edit: Oh, and we bring you your porn, mail and other "needed items".

 

[JungleJett]

Hey, don't hate on the COD, pick something bad like the P-3. You have to get off the ship for Admin Queen somehow don't you?!

edit: Oh, and we bring you your porn, mail and other "needed items".

No...no...no...I meant Call of Duty...the game.

Years ago at the Little Rock air show, they had an award for the ugliest airplane at the show. They were in the process of announcing it...but had yet to get to the winner when the COD crew stood up and started walking towards the podium...the plac was cracking up!