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Maxjet share trading halted

By Kevin Done, Aerospace Correspondent
Friday Dec 7 2007 15:40
Trading in the shares of Maxjet Airways, one of the new breed of all-business class long-haul airlines, was suspended on Friday in London, as the US group struggled to put together a financial rescue package.
The airline, which started flying transatlantic services in November 2005 between London Stansted and New York JFK airports, raised net proceeds of £47.3m in an initial public offering in June, becoming the second all-business airline after UK rival Silverjet to list on London's alternative investment market.
It has faced mounting losses in the face of surging fuel prices and lower than expected fare yields. Higher maintenance costs for its ageing fleet of Boeing 767 aircraft have also depressed financial performance.

After being launched at 138p a share, the Maxjet share price rose briefly to a peak of 140p, but it has declined steeply in recent months, falling to a low of 73½p before trading was halted on Friday. Maxjet said it had requested the suspension "with immediate effect pending clarification of its financial position".
In an attempt to shore up confidence it issued a second statement last night "to confirm to its employees, customers and suppliers that business continues to function as normal".
Maxjet services operated from Stansted on Friday to both New York and Los Angeles.
As senior executives criss-crossed the North Atlantic to try to secure financial backing - an effort made more difficult by deteriorating conditions in world financial markets - the group said that an announcement about the company's financial position would be made "as soon as ­possible".
Maxjet had losses of $31.9m in the first six months of the year as it was affected by higher than expected costs from aircraft maintenance and rising fuel prices, while it expanded its transatlantic operations.
It is one of a group of four carriers - including Eos of the US, the UK's Silverjet and L'Avion in Paris - launched in the past two-and-a-half years with all-business class services in an attempt to challenge the legacy carriers such as British Airways, American Airlines, Air France and Delta Air Lines (NYSE:DAL) on long-haul routes out of Europe and the US.
The airline made a net loss of $79m in 2006, its first full year of operations, on a turnover of $41.1m.
 
Once again, not every Tom, Dick and Harry who wants to start up an international ops airline can do it successfully. Time will tell if these guys will be around in a few months but it sends a warning to those who think you can just buy airplanes and file international flight plans.
 
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Well guys, you sit and type comments such as this and it reminds me why I should take the internet with a grain of salt.

Sedona16, this airline is not run by some "Tom, Dick and Harry" who just "bought airplanes and filed international flight plans". You are referring to a group of dedicated pilots and many others who sat and wrote manuals for about a year and a half before the airline even got a certificate. You minimize their hard work with your flippant comment. I will assume you probably don't know what you are talking about.

JohnsonRod, EOS is a good airline but offer a different product at a different price point. Apples and oranges come to mind.
 
What I said was not meant to diminish the hard work that went into the startup of your airline. I should have clarified more. The real point is that the international market is not only competitive but also very difficult to break in to. Slots, gates, etc come at a premium and there are alot of network carriers who have over many years staked or purchased their claims. The established networks with their worldwide connections and code shares have several legs up on a new entrant. In my opinion Maxjets biggest downfall is the failure to establish code share and offer enough options to its potential passengers. Sorry its not doing well. My appologies for the ealier "flip" description.


Well guys, you sit and type comments such as this and it reminds me why I should take the internet with a grain of salt.

Sedona16, this airline is not run by some "Tom, Dick and Harry" who just "bought airplanes and filed international flight plans". You are referring to a group of dedicated pilots and many others who sat and wrote manuals for about a year and a half before the airline even got a certificate. You minimize their hard work with your flippant comment. I will assume you probably don't know what you are talking about.

JohnsonRod, EOS is a good airline but offer a different product at a different price point. Apples and oranges come to mind.
 
Well guys, you sit and type comments such as this and it reminds me why I should take the internet with a grain of salt.

Sedona16, this airline is not run by some "Tom, Dick and Harry" who just "bought airplanes and filed international flight plans". You are referring to a group of dedicated pilots and many others who sat and wrote manuals for about a year and a half before the airline even got a certificate. You minimize their hard work with your flippant comment. I will assume you probably don't know what you are talking about.

JohnsonRod, EOS is a good airline but offer a different product at a different price point. Apples and oranges come to mind.

Do you guys have ETOPS availibility yet?
 
I rode Maxjet last year from Stansted to LAS (yes, non-stop). You could tell the airplanes were pretty wrung out despite the nice exterior paint job. The seats weren't that great, the entertainment system was a joke, the food wasn't bad, but the in-flight crew was obviously trying hard. About 50 of the 100 seats were filled. At $977 last minute, one-way, I haven't a clue how they expected to make money. I've been waiting for the financial shoe to drop ever since that flight.
 
Confused, how could they not and cross the Atlantic with 2 engine aircraft.. Are you saying they are making stops in Iceland?

Wow...your ID would indicate you might know something about ETOPS. Apparently not. There are various ETOPS approvals and they go from 120 minutes up to 207. Not sure what MJ has now buy originally they were limited to 60 minutes, thus did not come under the ETOPS rules. By the way, ETOPS has nothing to do with crossing oceans, just the distance between your aircraft and a suitable alternate.
 
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Confused, how could they not and cross the Atlantic with 2 engine aircraft.. Are you saying they are making stops in Iceland?

You don't know what ETOP is do you?



You must be lying on your profile? You list the 75 and the 76 but do not seem to understand what is involved.

And if you are telling the truth you don't know your manual at all.

I don't know which is worse, being a liar or a dumb a$$. I don't want either in my cockpit.
 
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Confused, how could they not and cross the Atlantic with 2 engine aircraft.. Are you saying they are making stops in Iceland?

And you fly a 767?

I'm guessing your training wasn't that good? Or did you just forget to study? LOL

I'm thinkin that I might be a littled worried to use my vacation passes this year to go from IAH to CDG with you flying. LOL
 
I ran into an ex-coworker in IAD the other day that flies for Maxjet. He was pretty arrogant about his job and how great Maxjet was, couldn't seem to stop taking jabs at United (as if he could get hired after his last two interview failures).....funny how I just told him to be careful about wishing illl will on others...I'll bet he will be looking for a job soon and wishing the bad Karma would go away.

Hope it works out for you GOOD guys at MAxjet, as far as my ex-coworker he will get what is coming to him.
 
Hopefully ALL the hardworking line workers at the above referenced carriers will find work and in the currenty hiring environment it shouldn't take long........but I do NOT wish their company well., hopefully it tanks asap. These start ups are no better than domestic LCC start ups trying to take market share and jobs away from established carriers. I hope Max Jet, EOS and the others just as much luck as I do Skybus or Virgin America....
 
And you fly a 767?

I'm guessing your training wasn't that good? Or did you just forget to study? LOL

I'm thinkin that I might be a littled worried to use my vacation passes this year to go from IAH to CDG with you flying. LOL

Just to let you know "LOL" was so 2001. Welcome to 2007.
 
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And you fly a 767?

I'm guessing your training wasn't that good? Or did you just forget to study? LOL

I'm thinkin that I might be a littled worried to use my vacation passes this year to go from IAH to CDG with you flying. LOL

Hey sweet britches, I think somethings burning in the kitchen. Now finish your cup of STFU and get my dinner.
 
Why not declare bankruptcy? That seems to be a good solution and has worked out well for quite a few airlines.
 
Why not declare bankruptcy? That seems to be a good solution and has worked out well for quite a few airlines.

Not sure how they are organized but the fact that the stock trades in London as opposed to New York might be indicitive of something other than a traditional US corp. There is no such thing as Chapt. 11 in the UK so one day your in business, the next day your not.
 
Wow!?!, you're saying a company has to pay its bills in Europe?

Maybe in Europe they can force Legacy carriers to give up slots all in the name of "Competition" like here in the US so the Greyhound crews of the LCCs can make flying cheaper for the masses by undercutting the industry.....naww probably not...

Get off your horse you crybaby....still hurts saying you are an Airtran pilot huh??
 
Maybe in Europe they can force Legacy carriers to give up slots all in the name of "Competition" like here in the US so the Greyhound crews of the LCCs can make flying cheaper for the masses by undercutting the industry.....naww probably not...

Get off your horse you crybaby....still hurts saying you are an Airtran pilot huh??

I guess you haven't heard of RyanAir in Europe, but anyway, my post was not directed at your airline but at the industry in general and the irony of America calling itself a "capitalist" system while we call Europe a bunch of "socialists". Don't worry guy and don't get so worked up, there is not the stigma of bankruptcy anymore, no one cares (except your creditors) and it worked out great for Delta. As for me, I still wave hello to you guys when we park over at "E" concourse. Happy Holidays!

http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/
 
Maybe in Europe they can force Legacy carriers to give up slots all in the name of "Competition" like here in the US so the Greyhound crews of the LCCs can make flying cheaper for the masses by undercutting the industry.....naww probably not...

Get off your horse you crybaby....still hurts saying you are an Airtran pilot huh??


Wow, who's the crybaby here? You sound like an arrogant, pompous, chip on the shoulder pr1ck. Which "Legacy" do you work for? Oh, let me guess...
 
Wow, who's the crybaby here? You sound like an arrogant, pompous, chip on the shoulder pr1ck. Which "Legacy" do you work for? Oh, let me guess...

Here's a hint: "wind check..."
 
Here's a hint: "wind check..."

Not a knock on all of you at Airtran, I have a few friends over there...

It seems Kharma only comes out of his cave whenever he finds an opportunity to nail on Delta....Pretty F-ing sick of him and his whining...

As for the wind check....maybe we can look for an after market battery fire detector for you Cartoonjet guys.....BTW how's the interview process going for the Everglades station manager???

Want to play like kids?? Then game on....or would you rather it be civil in here?? I choose the high road.....
 
I guess you haven't heard of RyanAir in Europe, but anyway, my post was not directed at your airline but at the industry in general and the irony of America calling itself a "capitalist" system while we call Europe a bunch of "socialists". Don't worry guy and don't get so worked up, there is not the stigma of bankruptcy anymore, no one cares (except your creditors) and it worked out great for Delta. As for me, I still wave hello to you guys when we park over at "E" concourse. Happy Holidays!

http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/

Hey Kharma,

Seriously, get over your hardon for Delta...it's really old....probably Airtran will need BK someday at these oil prices and jets coming faster than Fornaro knows where to make money on them (Hey let's try Orlando to.......) and you'll be thankful the law is there.

Wave at us on E?? Don't care, not our gates.....Good on you though....Going to Cancun, I'm impressed....Remember, just put the compass on "S"....you should find it....
 
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Wow, who's the crybaby here? You sound like an arrogant, pompous, chip on the shoulder pr1ck. Which "Legacy" do you work for? Oh, let me guess...

Hey Brit,

I work for the Legacy that probably turned your A$$ down.....how's that SWA app going or do you tell everybody that Airtran is your career move?? Just checking.....

Keep hiding behind your keyboard spewing names like a kid....it makes you look smart!!
 
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Want to play like kids?? Then game on....or would you rather it be civil in here?? I choose the high road.....

If your last few posts are what you call "civil," then I'd hate to see uncivil. :rolleyes: I'm not going to get involved in this silly little game, though, because I know that most DAL pilots are good guys. You seem to be the exception. I guess everybody has their 5%.
 

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