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Aero Engineer here
I was an Aero major. Did it help me much as a pilot? Maybe not. Here was my reasoning: What was I (and am I still) interested in?: aiplanes. Would I have been happier studying anything else in college?: not really. Would it have been easier in another major?: Probably. What would be my fallback position if I didn't get to be a pilot?: McJob? What if I got a disease or got in an accident, or I sucked in pilot training? Wouldn't it be better to have a degree I could use?
{Harsh reality story: There was a guy in my NROTC unit who went for the English major because he didn't care about anything but flying, got through college in three years.
Here's what happened to him: No pilot slots available, he (and a lot of us) had to go through NFO training. He didn't do very well, washed out of F-14 RIO syllabus. (Also, he got his girlfriend pregnant, but that's another issue).
Since he was an English major, he had no fallback position. The Navy let him go since there were no other training spots (even Surface Warfare) to send him to. He ended up going back home to the Midwest to live with his parents and brand new family to find a McJob somewhere (who knows, maybe he's a millionaire by now, but I doubt it).}
I was an Aero major. Did it help me much as a pilot? Maybe not. Here was my reasoning: What was I (and am I still) interested in?: aiplanes. Would I have been happier studying anything else in college?: not really. Would it have been easier in another major?: Probably. What would be my fallback position if I didn't get to be a pilot?: McJob? What if I got a disease or got in an accident, or I sucked in pilot training? Wouldn't it be better to have a degree I could use?
{Harsh reality story: There was a guy in my NROTC unit who went for the English major because he didn't care about anything but flying, got through college in three years.
Here's what happened to him: No pilot slots available, he (and a lot of us) had to go through NFO training. He didn't do very well, washed out of F-14 RIO syllabus. (Also, he got his girlfriend pregnant, but that's another issue).
Since he was an English major, he had no fallback position. The Navy let him go since there were no other training spots (even Surface Warfare) to send him to. He ended up going back home to the Midwest to live with his parents and brand new family to find a McJob somewhere (who knows, maybe he's a millionaire by now, but I doubt it).}
BeechScrub
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Days of non-tech coming to an end...
Well I was told if I wanted to maintain my PoliSci major AFROTC wouldn't have me. At least not in the two year program I wanted. They are telling me the Air Force is pushing VERY hard for tech degrees right now. So I'm now a Mathematics major. I'm going to bust it out in the same amount of time I had planned to finish my Poli Sci. So no one will probably see me for quite a while.
They said they have NO slots available for non tech majors graduating from 2004-2005.
As far as pilot selection, from what I'm being told it can have an indirect effect on the process. We all know GPA is considered during the pilot selection. Well I'm hearing a 3.5 gpa in a "Frat boy party degree", i.e., communications, Polisci, P.E., whatever, won't hold the weight a 3.0 will in a tech degree with the board. I don't know, just passing along the scuttlebut.
Plus, scholarships are more forthcoming to a tech major, especially if its a "tier I" major like meteorology.
Like I said, I'm in the middle of this process right now. Maybe my Det is blowing smoke up my a$$ but I doubt it. I've heard it from other students around the nation as well. As a Freshman, you can probably still get your foot in the door with a non-tech degree. After that, start looking at the propeller head studies.
Well I was told if I wanted to maintain my PoliSci major AFROTC wouldn't have me. At least not in the two year program I wanted. They are telling me the Air Force is pushing VERY hard for tech degrees right now. So I'm now a Mathematics major. I'm going to bust it out in the same amount of time I had planned to finish my Poli Sci. So no one will probably see me for quite a while.
They said they have NO slots available for non tech majors graduating from 2004-2005.
As far as pilot selection, from what I'm being told it can have an indirect effect on the process. We all know GPA is considered during the pilot selection. Well I'm hearing a 3.5 gpa in a "Frat boy party degree", i.e., communications, Polisci, P.E., whatever, won't hold the weight a 3.0 will in a tech degree with the board. I don't know, just passing along the scuttlebut.
Plus, scholarships are more forthcoming to a tech major, especially if its a "tier I" major like meteorology.
Like I said, I'm in the middle of this process right now. Maybe my Det is blowing smoke up my a$$ but I doubt it. I've heard it from other students around the nation as well. As a Freshman, you can probably still get your foot in the door with a non-tech degree. After that, start looking at the propeller head studies.
Most of the top students selected for UPT go to Sheppard for ENJJPT. After graduating from there they have a much better chance at a fighter slot than a normal UPT grad. One drawback is that the Europeans don't want to shell out the money for T-6's, so they'll probably still be flying T-37's for a while.
AlbieF15
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If you implying the T-6 is a worse choice because airlines value one type of fime over the other, a couple points..
First...student time doesn't count much anyway...
Second...both are turbine....
If you are worried about single verses multi PIC, then pick the F-15 C or E over the F-16, or go to an A-10. Realistically...military fighter PIC turbine time is interchangable when it comes to applying to the airlines. In any case--focus now on GETTING WINGS, not logging particular types of flight time.
Now...if you comparing one trainer to the other, I found the tweet uncomfortable, loud, but very exciting to fly. I've heard raves about T-6 performance, but I haven't flown it yet. Not having an IP so close to me on my right side, however, is appealing, and the tandem seat arrangement appeals to me personally.
So...go to Sheppard if you are 95%sure you want a fighter. However...I flew fighters my entire career, but I had a blast in "regular" UPT and still got lucky enough to get my dream job. If you aren't sure...well...if you think you might be happier in a C-130 or a C-17, you might consider the other bases. Where ever you go--just work hard, have fun, and good things are likely to follow....
First...student time doesn't count much anyway...
Second...both are turbine....
If you are worried about single verses multi PIC, then pick the F-15 C or E over the F-16, or go to an A-10. Realistically...military fighter PIC turbine time is interchangable when it comes to applying to the airlines. In any case--focus now on GETTING WINGS, not logging particular types of flight time.
Now...if you comparing one trainer to the other, I found the tweet uncomfortable, loud, but very exciting to fly. I've heard raves about T-6 performance, but I haven't flown it yet. Not having an IP so close to me on my right side, however, is appealing, and the tandem seat arrangement appeals to me personally.
So...go to Sheppard if you are 95%sure you want a fighter. However...I flew fighters my entire career, but I had a blast in "regular" UPT and still got lucky enough to get my dream job. If you aren't sure...well...if you think you might be happier in a C-130 or a C-17, you might consider the other bases. Where ever you go--just work hard, have fun, and good things are likely to follow....
BeechScrub
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