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altimaklr

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Delta: Hiring compass pilots, 100 mesaba, the rest will probably be military buddies and minorities

AA: Poorly run with tons of furloughs to be recalled, just took 200 eagle pilots

CO/UA: Must hire all the UA furloughs before street hiring begins again

AS: If they grow, it will be very slowly.

B6: Just hired

UPS: Furloughing

Fedex: Already has a pool, and hundreds of military buddies waiting to apply

Virgin: 5000+ hours for most applicants

WN: Looking to get 737-800's, may need fewer pilots in the future

Frontier: They're screwed

Spirit: A regional with airbuses

Any others?
 
As far as Virgin is concerned, I would think at this point thousands of regional airline pilots do have 5000 hours and more. Even the right seat is probably getting that high.
 
Delta: Hiring compass pilots, 100 mesaba, the rest will probably be military buddies and minorities

AA: Poorly run with tons of furloughs to be recalled, just took 200 eagle pilots

CO/UA: Must hire all the UA furloughs before street hiring begins again

AS: If they grow, it will be very slowly.

B6: Just hired

UPS: Furloughing

Fedex: Already has a pool, and hundreds of military buddies waiting to apply

Virgin: 5000+ hours for most applicants

WN: Looking to get 737-800's, may need fewer pilots in the future

Frontier: They're screwed

Spirit: A regional with airbuses

Any others?

Hiring at the majors/legacies have always been bad since the begining of time that is why you have a back-up plan. You do have a back-up plan, huh? The airlines are no different than any other business, they hire who they want to hire regardless of the background you deem appropriate.
 
AA did not just take 200 Eagle pilots. 35 flowed in June due to a grievance award. Another 179 or so will flow once recalls start. Another 824 will have hiring opportunities after that, but won't be triggered till AA starts hiring and will be at a metered rate.
 
What folks need to realize is that these are "airline jobs." Different airlines are hiring and different airlines are shrinking. If better airlines are hiring more experienced pilots (and due to stagnation a lot of pilots now fit in the "experienced" category) that is a GOOD thing!

If a pilot is senior and has a good deal at their current carrier, that is not bad either.

Junior pilots will either become more senior in their current position or go an airline they prefer to work for. Even in the case of Comair, I predict that with age 65 retirements finally coming due that pilots will find themselves in a better position 3 years from now.
 
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Staying at a regional, which is nothing more than an oursourcing company / staffing agency, is not a "back up plan" and certainly not a career. It's simply a paycheck. Any other bright ideas?

Yea Ive got one that involves you playing in traffic.

Have a GREAT labor day!
 
Mainline is a staffing agency too. Use your brain. Mainline pilots think they "own" everything but the fact remains the shareholders via management dictate what happens. Airline "unions" are the weakest link and that's not going to change soon. But you'll hear them pounding their chests here frequently. If you wait around a few minutes, one should be by..
 
regional jobs account for small fraction of total airline jobs in the us. give it time, you will soon be somewhere even if you have to pry the yoke off their 65 year old hands. One thing is for sure, it's going to be pretty bad the in near future. And look of a reduction in 737s and airby but an increase in large Regional Jets.
 
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