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COOPERVANE

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http://www.expressjetpilots.com/the-pipe/showthread.php?51498-Contract-wristbands

Show unity and say HELL NO!!

If you are interested in ordering, here is his Paypal account. Please read his instructions on page 4 of the link above to order. In quantities of 80 it's only $15 bucks

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$15 for 80 wristbands. I think in red and similar to the "live strong" bands.

The LXJT pilots Raised over $600 in a matter of hours and have ordered enough for ALL of their pilots. I have ordered a couple hundred. We need a few more to donate to cover all the LASA group. Any takers???
 
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I like the concept of advertising the message, but I'm pretty sure they're against the uniform code (plus they look unprofessional). They should have put their money into bag stickers--those are much larger billboards anyway.
 
I like the concept of advertising the message, They should have put their money into bag stickers--those are much larger billboards anyway.

These are not for advertising to the general public IMO, they are for showing solidarity between our pilots and pilot groups. You will notice another pilot with one of these on, but a passenger will not.

The time is not ripe yet to be taking our message to the general population, not that they would care about our "plight" ever though. That is why picketing activities have dropped dramatically because, unless we are on strike(which will never happen IMO) the general public could give a ******************** less about us because in their opinion(which is generally wrong) we are over paid and under worked as it is.
 
These wristbands are a total waste. They never have and never will cure cancer, AIDS, or get a contract. Wearing one to "show support" doesn't actually support anything.... Maybe it just makes the wearer feel better because they care and want everyone to know.
 
I agree that wristbands, toe tags and rainbow ties don't really DO much.

But their goal is to get them out to ALL the regional pilots who are currently feeling the whipsaw. To let them know we are all tired of the screw job that has become out careers.

It's the first unifying thing I've seen yet. Worth a few dollars IMO.
 
ANd this right here is WHY the ASA pilots will accept a crap TA.

APATHY

Screw you. We wouldn't be in this position if your side hadn't tried to shove an inferior PBS system down our throats. This TA would have been done before the Pinnacle agreement.
 
Screw you. We wouldn't be in this position if your side hadn't tried to shove an inferior PBS system down our throats. This TA would have been done before the Pinnacle agreement.

It was your mec who wanted to shove an inferior bidding system down our throats. And it was your MEC who wouldn't compromise. And look what came out of it? The same dual track compromise that your MEC turned down. Only a year later.



Anyway, I'll wear one of these wristbands.
 
I wouldn't call it an inferior bidding system. I turned 1 week of vaca into 24 days in the spring and 1 week in the summer into 4 weeks.

Even a junior line holder can do that because anyone can hold four-days over a weekend.
 
I wouldn't call it an inferior bidding system. I turned 1 week of vaca into 24 days in the spring and 1 week in the summer into 4 weeks.

Even a junior line holder can do that because anyone can hold four-days over a weekend.

Well, I meant it relatively speaking. Everything I've heard is that it's light years better than what your line bidding use to be like.

And I'm glad that the MECs have been able to put it behind them.
 
you ought to be lucky we're not coming up with a sticker in the shape of a CRJ stapler attaching an ERJ to our tail..............
 
September will also be a vacation month (as one of the vacation days falls on the next bid period). I'll end up with the first week or more off in September, since I'll only have to meet 65 hours on my award. That's a month and possibly more off. 3 weeks vacation a year, 6 vacation months. That's about a month off every four months, with guarantee, if that's what you really want.

Regardless, I didn't say our vacation system was better. I said it wasn't inferior.
 
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You have to meet 65 hours on an award... LXJT has no such requirement. With three weeks of vacation (one in may, one in July, and one in Sept) by the time my vacations are over, I will have only worked less than 100 hours the entire summer.

Not trying to feed an argument. Your system is good, our is better. You'd have really benefited by our system. It is not a coincidence that management wants PBS and most pilots don't.

And yes the ASA negotiating team dragging their feet screwed us. We could have had a great contract before Endeavor screwed the industry.

The ASA MEC directed the ASA negotiations to slow down and stall the system. ASA had 70 seat pay and were able to bid 70 RFPs and we did not. It was obvious that any 70 RPFs won would go to ASA and not XJT. As the 50 seaters were parked they would have to come from XJT. The ASA MEC wanted to wait to finish negotiations until their group was bigger then XJT... Thus having all the power. Notice that the minute we got 70+ seat pay that the ASA MEC got a fire lit under their buttz? Honestly within a month and a half of us getting 70 seat pay the contract was nearly finished. Then management asked us for nearly 20 million a year in concessions!!! Thanks ASA MEC and thank you Endeavor!


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Children PLEASE !

Turn the page already!
 
The vacation optimizing features in both contracts seem very appealing. The pilot groups will soon be asked by the company, and perhaps the MECs, to forfeit them voluntarily. We should respond by saying no. Say no to all concessions. Ask for more instead. You deserve it.
 

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