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Learjetplt
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When I first started flying Lears, company paid FO school then $150 a flight day, 3 day a week guarantee. Fly more than 3 days earn more. I was a flight instructor at the same time to help with the bills.
I fly in the left seat now and am earning about $50K
I dont think knowing what I do now I would have chosen aviation as a career. What other profession has to have medicals every six months, retraining and check rides what seems constantly is responsible for multi million dollar equipment, has to fly the top money earners in the world worth millions themselves and gets paid so little.
Who is earning the money in aviation??
I fly in the left seat now and am earning about $50K
I dont think knowing what I do now I would have chosen aviation as a career. What other profession has to have medicals every six months, retraining and check rides what seems constantly is responsible for multi million dollar equipment, has to fly the top money earners in the world worth millions themselves and gets paid so little.
Who is earning the money in aviation??
Lear pay FO
OK.. .here's some scoop on the company I work for.. Pacific Jet, VNY
their FOs start at $36K with upgrade to $42k after probation (of course, depending on how you do... )
We are always looking... from what I've heard, we just added another LJ36 and LJ55 to our fleet... we already have almost 60 pilots in the company... and about 20 airplanes consisting of learjets and gulfstreams II, III, and a IV with another IV on the way...
the best way to get in is by referral and walkins... if you mail or email, your resume will get lost guaranteed...
PM me if you're interested, I need to move up and upgrade soon or I'll quit.. lol
Good luck
OK.. .here's some scoop on the company I work for.. Pacific Jet, VNY
their FOs start at $36K with upgrade to $42k after probation (of course, depending on how you do... )
We are always looking... from what I've heard, we just added another LJ36 and LJ55 to our fleet... we already have almost 60 pilots in the company... and about 20 airplanes consisting of learjets and gulfstreams II, III, and a IV with another IV on the way...
the best way to get in is by referral and walkins... if you mail or email, your resume will get lost guaranteed...
PM me if you're interested, I need to move up and upgrade soon or I'll quit.. lol
Good luck
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Check Skyjobs.net and you will see the ad.
If you are curious as to how your salary stacks up against other professionals, heres a link to several surveys.
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If you are curious as to how your salary stacks up against other professionals, heres a link to several surveys.
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JumboCat3
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Lear Jet F/O pay
Dear Friend,
I have flown charter for 16 some odd years. I have always been a Learjet pilot.
I have experience in 20 and 30 series. I have been to just about every airport in our wonderful country that a Lear can go to.
One of my past times would be to converse with flight departments to see how they operate and what the pay is.
So there is no standards for Learjet F/O pay.
There is no single person, besides the person who hires you, that can tell you what your pay will be.
I know of a young man that would fly right seat for free. Yes! I know, that cheapens what we do. But there are pilots that will do that.
I know of a Learjet pilot that was just hired about 45 days ago and he is getting just under $75,000 a year for flying a 35.
Pay is dictated by the location of a company. If there was a Lear operator in Tumble Weed Kentucky, he would pay low. He would try to have his plane on a 135 certificate for tax benifiets. The crew would not have as many trips as say a company based in New York or LA. So the company tends to pay their pilots
lower than most. Also the cost of living in Tumbleweed Kentucky is lower than New York, LA or Chicago.
A good Corperation will pay very well and include 401k and Insurances.
They like to find a nice crew that will stay with the company. Corporate passengers like familiar faces in the cockpit unlike a low paying company that will have an infux of new crews. The low paid crew will leave as soon as they get some good
jet time and find a better paying job.
There are two kinds of charter firms. The 135 operators that operate on a string are slowing shutting doors and being run out of town by those big Fractional operators. Their were some nice 135 operators that paid well, offered 401K and insurance. They kept their Lears painted with new interiors and could be found
to be well maintained. But those operators are starting to be far and few in between.
You could expect to be paid about $30,000 for the right seat.
There are operators who pay by the day or by flight hours or both.
Right now due to 911, you will be lucky to find a job at all. If you find a corporate job you should thank God.
If you get job flying a right seat in a Lear under 135, thank God also. Then you can expect to be paid very low and work hard. You will see lots of MELs and asked to do things to help the company make money.
All I can say is good luck my friend and I hope you find a flying job that makes you content and enough pay so that you will be found healthy.
JumboCat3
Dear Friend,
I have flown charter for 16 some odd years. I have always been a Learjet pilot.
I have experience in 20 and 30 series. I have been to just about every airport in our wonderful country that a Lear can go to.
One of my past times would be to converse with flight departments to see how they operate and what the pay is.
So there is no standards for Learjet F/O pay.
There is no single person, besides the person who hires you, that can tell you what your pay will be.
I know of a young man that would fly right seat for free. Yes! I know, that cheapens what we do. But there are pilots that will do that.
I know of a Learjet pilot that was just hired about 45 days ago and he is getting just under $75,000 a year for flying a 35.
Pay is dictated by the location of a company. If there was a Lear operator in Tumble Weed Kentucky, he would pay low. He would try to have his plane on a 135 certificate for tax benifiets. The crew would not have as many trips as say a company based in New York or LA. So the company tends to pay their pilots
lower than most. Also the cost of living in Tumbleweed Kentucky is lower than New York, LA or Chicago.
A good Corperation will pay very well and include 401k and Insurances.
They like to find a nice crew that will stay with the company. Corporate passengers like familiar faces in the cockpit unlike a low paying company that will have an infux of new crews. The low paid crew will leave as soon as they get some good
jet time and find a better paying job.
There are two kinds of charter firms. The 135 operators that operate on a string are slowing shutting doors and being run out of town by those big Fractional operators. Their were some nice 135 operators that paid well, offered 401K and insurance. They kept their Lears painted with new interiors and could be found
to be well maintained. But those operators are starting to be far and few in between.
You could expect to be paid about $30,000 for the right seat.
There are operators who pay by the day or by flight hours or both.
Right now due to 911, you will be lucky to find a job at all. If you find a corporate job you should thank God.
If you get job flying a right seat in a Lear under 135, thank God also. Then you can expect to be paid very low and work hard. You will see lots of MELs and asked to do things to help the company make money.
All I can say is good luck my friend and I hope you find a flying job that makes you content and enough pay so that you will be found healthy.
JumboCat3
propilot
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Wow! Who knew this thread would still be at the top of the list over a month later....Anyway, I passed on the Lear job and took a Falcon job in the same area. The job offered more flight time and an upgrade within a year. Plus, the Falcon weighs in at 28660 versus 18300 for the Lear. Passing the 20,000# marker was one of the key factors considering several companies are now looking for that. As for pay, I'll be making in the 30K range. Not the best, but better than a regional and a quicker upgrade into the left seat.
Thanks
Thanks
Lear F/O pay
Really a function of quality of life (schedule, 401K, medical): Less benefits $35K PLUS--if you do not desire high turnover; Pilot needed on call--24/7/365 on less than an hour call-out-$40K PLUS; Great benefits, flexible schedule and PERKS&/or 24hrPLUS callout--$30K or less; another alternative with dubious stability(aka--two year or less employee) Send a Part 135IFR with no or low turbine time(1200TT-see 135.297?) or foreign pilot needing USvisa(Canadian or Euro) to FlightSafety, Simuflite, PanAm &/or Simcom for SOLID training and put a 18 month training contract on him/her for your own stability--$25K minimum--PERIOD!
Really a function of quality of life (schedule, 401K, medical): Less benefits $35K PLUS--if you do not desire high turnover; Pilot needed on call--24/7/365 on less than an hour call-out-$40K PLUS; Great benefits, flexible schedule and PERKS&/or 24hrPLUS callout--$30K or less; another alternative with dubious stability(aka--two year or less employee) Send a Part 135IFR with no or low turbine time(1200TT-see 135.297?) or foreign pilot needing USvisa(Canadian or Euro) to FlightSafety, Simuflite, PanAm &/or Simcom for SOLID training and put a 18 month training contract on him/her for your own stability--$25K minimum--PERIOD!
aeronautic1
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Training Contract
Training contracts are only worth the paper they are written on. Who in their right mind would fly thru til contract completion if the aircraft never had squawks addressed, captain is an alcoholic, company insists that you break 135 regs... there are plenty of ways to get out of training contracts. I have never heard of one being taken to court, but if you document everything, then you are way ahead of the game. As far as pay goes, as a contract co-pilot, I get $250 per day flying Lear and Citation (flew two trips in LR24 and CE550 this week). My first full time job in air ambulance paid $36K with benefits. Part 91 pays better, the aircraft are better and the quality of life on the road is definitely better.
Training contracts are only worth the paper they are written on. Who in their right mind would fly thru til contract completion if the aircraft never had squawks addressed, captain is an alcoholic, company insists that you break 135 regs... there are plenty of ways to get out of training contracts. I have never heard of one being taken to court, but if you document everything, then you are way ahead of the game. As far as pay goes, as a contract co-pilot, I get $250 per day flying Lear and Citation (flew two trips in LR24 and CE550 this week). My first full time job in air ambulance paid $36K with benefits. Part 91 pays better, the aircraft are better and the quality of life on the road is definitely better.
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