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Loss of medical for fumes, what up here?

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So whats the rest of the story here, cabin air quality form?



Toxic Fumes in USAirways jets to blame for lost Medicals...
The following is an email sent out by USAPA to its members.


Safety Committee Update
Safety Committee Again Warns of Toxic Fumes
There is an extreme danger in accepting and flying aircraft that have odors or fumes. Within the past week, there have been two more instances of both pilots and flight attendants becoming ill -- seriously ill -- after the flight crews accepted and flew aircraft with unknown odors. Two pilots have lost their medicals due to these fumes, and there will be more unless and until you realize the gravity of this hazard.
DO NOT accept or fly an aircraft with unknown odors in either the back or front of an aircraft. You are putting yourselves, your crew and your passengers at risk for inhalation of neurotoxin compounds that likely come from aerosolized engine oil or hydraulic fluid. These compounds can, and have, caused serious neurological illnesses to both pilots and flight attendants, in some cases resulting in permanent and total disability. We have stressed in the past the dangers associated with these events, yet we still have pilots who are willing to take a chance that the odors are benign. Don't do it. You are putting your health and career at risk.
If you are confronted with this issue, make an entry in the FDML, complete the cabin air quality form and refuse the aircraft until maintenance has deemed it airworthy. If the odor reappears at any time thereafter, either return to the gate or, if airborne, follow your QRH smoke and fume guidance and land at the nearest suitable airport.
It is your responsibility to stop the operation until you are completely satisfied it can be completed safely. Toxic fumes are patently unsafe, and we have no way of knowing whether the odors we are experiencing are toxic or not. Always err on the side of safety. Your health depends on your decision.
Tom Kubik
John Sabel

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Just another usapa attempt at a job action would be my guess. Their last attempt got neutered pretty quickly with a read file.
 
I'd like to know the names of the pilots and flight attendants permanently disabled (maybe LTD $$ a month before retirement??) from stinky water separators.

Jets have had the same systems for decades and now is the time to push the panic button (of course that's the only button USAPA has)?
 
Man you guys are rough.

Yep. Talk about a "rush to judgement"...

Pilots are so quick to believe the worst about one another, yet we wonder why this once-proud profession has degraded to the point where it is little better than a job.
 
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If you guys only knew, only lived with this, you'd probably understand. Ever had a federal RICO suit filed against for some nonsense you posted on a web board? Individuals were looking at personal bankruptcy not even being able to afford the court process. Now that's rough. And that's just scratching the surface.

They've pulled out every stop. Literally. It's almost unbelievable.
 
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Whats this mean. Thats a bunch of jibberish. Explain what you are saying, not so cryptic. Im public educated, might explain still being a pilot!

Put anither way "what you talkin bout willis?"
 
This sounds familiar. I have heard of a couple of people who have had sinus problems after having an incident with a smoking pack. These things use some sort of oil which is really bad to inhale. If you ever are in a situation where you have a pack that smells like burning oil, don't mess around.

If you run into this situation, see a good dr. fast. Get things documented. This stuff gets in your sinuses, and it can cause problems for months, if not years. You don't need to mess around. The union is correct on this one. It can be dangerous, and it can cause long-term medical trouble.
 
Just another usapa attempt at a job action would be my guess. Their last attempt got neutered pretty quickly with a read file.


I sure hope your not the Captain on a flight that I might be riding on and something like this happens on board. It has happened twice - once on a 767 and once on an A320 ( although i wasn't on board).

Metrojet
 

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