Looks like falconair is scabbing!!!

[Mike man]

And real scumbag scabs they are....they were doing ZSA-FLL which would require a visit to customs...except the SCABs stopped in NAS to pre-clear so they wouldn't have to do customs in FLL.

 

[KSUPILOT]

another scab in the air http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NKS2099

 

[JJthejetplane]

From www.spiritairlinesscabs.com:

A Falcon Air aircaft operated Spirit Flight 2098 on June 12, 2010 during a period of struck work as defined by the Spirit M.E.C. Though the names of the pilots are yet to be confirmed, a Falcon Pilot writes:
"Attention Spirit Pilot Group, let it be known that although the scum president of Falcon Air sought to make money by covering Spirit flights during your strike, except for a few Falcon management pilots who are very foolish who I believe flew one of two Spirit flights today, the rest of the Falcon pilot group, lead by former Midwest Airlines ALPA pilots, FLAT OUT REJECTED flying any Spirit flights or called in sick.

According to Falcon's Crew Scheduler, due to this action by the Falcon pilots, Falcon will no longer cover any Spirit flights."
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[eyeamthechosen1]

FYI,

That one Falcon flight was flown by two Falcon pilots, one is retired and the other has made his choice. 90% of the pilot group has refused to fly any Spirit flights. Due to most of the pilot group refusing to do the flights, Falcon Air as of today has said they will no longer attempt to fly Spirit flights. Don't trash the whole pilot group for two people.

 

[RJ Bum]

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[Midnight Flyer]

Glad you guys have the scabs names. Unfortunately, we can't post them on here. The mods would have a conniption.

When Amerijet went on strike, there was Scabvision, where all the scab names and pictures were posted on this website. It's been shut down, however.

 

[RJ Bum]

There are two other carriers that operate the Direct Air contract and I believe Falcon Air was recently removed from the contract. Please remove the Direct Air symbol next to Falcon Air on the web site to avoid any confusion.

Thanks, and good luck!

 

[clr4theapch]

Look, the mods here have to wear two hats on this issue... Personally I highly support the pilots efforts.. and as Lear70 has posted on the majors board and my "sticky" HERE ON THE LCC.. WE HAVE ASKED YOU TO """"NOT""" USE PEOPLES NAMES HERE.. we need everyone to keep their cool here on FI and support them """within"" the boundaries of the rules of FI..

With the MOD hat on.. I have to issue you all one "LAST" warning.. do not name peoples names here.. too many folks have similar names, and facts are not always "facts"".. we dont need mistaken ID's..

The next person to do so will get a very long FI vacation.. LONG>>> so be cool, speak your mind within reason, support them as you choose.. Lear70 and and I have given you guys and gals alot ot latitude to discuss this situation much further than we normally would... dont cross the line... plz..

Clr4///

 

[flynryan15]

Look, the mods here have to wear two hats on this issue... Personally I highly support the pilots efforts.. and as Lear70 has posted on the majors board and my "sticky" HERE ON THE LCC.. WE HAVE ASKED YOU TO """"NOT""" USE PEOPLES NAMES HERE.. we need everyone to keep their cool here on FI and support them """within"" the boundaries of the rules of FI..

With the MOD hat on.. I have to issue you all one "LAST" warning.. do not name peoples names here.. too many folks have similar names, and facts are not always "facts"".. we dont need mistaken ID's..

The next person to do so will get a very long FI vacation.. LONG>>> so be cool, speak your mind within reason, support them as you choose.. Lear70 and and I have given you guys and gals alot ot latitude to discuss this situation much further than we normally would... dont cross the line... plz..

Clr4///

My mind says views like this enable the action of scabs!

 

[Mike man]

My mind says views like this enable the action of scabs!

While I think a scab is despicable and an evil being...but I'm pretty sure FI.com does not what the liability of having the scabs name, address and phone number so people can do what they please, and in situations like this when you have some pretty angry dudes hanging around things can get really ugly, really fast.

Also keep in mind that if this person already crossed the line to scab, they are exactly the kind of person who will follow the advise of the billboards in South Florida and log on to whocanisue.com.

Anyway, and I have no official say at FI.com, you are correct. But you can't just go posting the names and addresses on a random internet forum.

 

[nyboilermaker]

While I think a scab is despicable and an evil being...
Anyway, and I have no official say at FI.com, you are correct. But you can't just go posting the names and addresses on a random internet forum.

Yeah, it's not like Google does it.

 

[clr4theapch]

Have at it....

My mind says views like this enable the action of scabs!

Ya know, I just knew someome's mouth would over-ride their ass here.. you want to list people's names and numbers, home addresses, emails, then lets allow ""your"" name and number to be listed here as well... ok...

I was pretty darn clear what my personal thoughts are on this matter, but FI is not my web site and it's not your's, in the terms of service is very plainly written that scab discussions are not ever allowed!! However LEAR70 and I have agreeded to relax the rules a bit to allow you folks to blow off steam with "general discussions....

So I ask you, "flyryan15" do you really want to bite the hand that feeds you here.. do you want to be" that guy" that gets the threads deleted for everyone and we do it by the book??

My mind says the view out of your window had better clear up right quick! as we are not the bad guys.. it's the most we can do with the tools we have at our disposal... peace out...

 

[Tug Driver]

Well if you just go to the spirit scab site and google the FO's name that flew the struck work, you can view his whole resume online...

 

[Lear70]

Well if you just go to the spirit scab site and google the FO's name that flew the struck work, you can view his whole resume online...

Yes, and it's an external site that has NO link to FlightInfo whatsoever. THAT'S why CLR and I have left the link to that site up in this thread...

Look, any of you that know me know my views on unions as a necessary evil at some carriers and how I've supported unions in the past. Most of you don't know CLR, but if you knew his background, you'd understand he *IS* one of us, just no longer can fly for medical reasons and he has no love for scabs, either.

That said, this is not our site. We just enforce the rules. We are RELAXING the rules (and the webmaster doesn't know we're letting this play out - he may yank our Mod status if he gets wind of it) and letting you guys post the link to the Spirit site and discussing it on here. That's as far as we can let it go...

So please, no posting of the scabs names. If someone were to go after those guys and something criminal happened, even as benign as slashing a tire or such, FI could find itself in a load of hot water legally, even possibly shut down for instigating that action or appearing to be in passive support of such a thing. Which it's NOT, but you know how the judicial system works (or, rather, how it doesn't).

Good luck to the Men and Women at Spirit, our gratitude for fighting the good fight!

/mod

 

[rogerwilcoout]

Yes, and it's an external site that has NO link to FlightInfo whatsoever. THAT'S why CLR and I have left the link to that site up in this thread...

Look, any of you that know me know my views on unions as a necessary evil at some carriers and how I've supported unions in the past. Most of you don't know CLR, but if you knew his background, you'd understand he *IS* one of us, just no longer can fly for medical reasons and he has no love for scabs, either.

That said, this is not our site. We just enforce the rules. We are RELAXING the rules (and the webmaster doesn't know we're letting this play out - he may yank our Mod status if he gets wind of it) and letting you guys post the link to the Spirit site and discussing it on here. That's as far as we can let it go...

So please, no posting of the scabs names. If someone were to go after those guys and something criminal happened, even as benign as slashing a tire or such, FI could find itself in a load of hot water legally, even possibly shut down for instigating that action or appearing to be in passive support of such a thing. Which it's NOT, but you know how the judicial system works (or, rather, how it doesn't).

Good luck to the Men and Women at Spirit, our gratitude for fighting the good fight!

/mod

And that is all that needs to be said really. CLR just does not know how to handle the responsibility of a mod. He should be let go and replaced with mods that do not act like a child with a gun.

 

[CommanderHoek]

If you choose to work for Falcon Air and the worst C.P. and D.O. in the world, I have no sympathy for you. The guys at Falcon knew what they were in for and went anyway. One Midwest guy was calling and writing and BEGGING to get in there. The Midwest guys sold their souls to work for Falcon Air. One minute saying poor us and the next minute stabbing their brothers in the back. Lawsuits and FAA violations run rampid at Falcon. The owner and his son are crooks. Falcon Air is the place you go CAUSE NO-ONE ELSE WANTS YOU OR WILL TAKE YOU, You career is over!!!!

 

[flynryan15]

I SENT THE SCAB A NASTY MESSAGE ON FB HERE IS HOW HE JUSTIFY'S HIS ACTIONS!

I am sorry that I crossed the picked line. I was pressured into it by my company. I also did not understand the implications. Right after I came back I called Falcon Air crew scheduling, and told them that I did not want to do this anymore. If there where to be any consequences for the decision not to fly anymore, then so be it.

Furthermore I contacted Tony Willis, the Spirit Airlines ALPA strike coordinator in Ft. Lauderdale to explain to him that I made a mistake. I do support your cause. I offered him that I would want to walk the picket line in support of the Spirit Air pilots at the airport. He appreciated my offer, but advised me not to go because of possible confrontations.

Again, I am truly sorry for my actions and I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me.

Respectfully,

 

[sgu]

Hope a lot of guys sent him FB messages. I got the same reply.

 

[flynryan15]

Ya know, I just knew someome's mouth would over-ride their ass here.. you want to list people's names and numbers, home addresses, emails, then lets allow ""your"" name and number to be listed here as well... ok...

I was pretty darn clear what my personal thoughts are on this matter, but FI is not my web site and it's not your's, in the terms of service is very plainly written that scab discussions are not ever allowed!! However LEAR70 and I have agreeded to relax the rules a bit to allow you folks to blow off steam with "general discussions....

we do it by the book?So I ask you, "flyryan15" do you really want to bite the hand that feeds you here.. do you want to be" that guy" that gets the threads deleted for everyone and ?

My mind says the view out of your window had better clear up right quick! as we are not the bad guys.. it's the most we can do with the tools we have at our disposal... peace out...[/QUOTE]

I violated no term of service! I expressed my view! So don't use your power as a mod to threaten me! Who moderates you? This isn't socialism yet and I am allowed to have a point of view. So spare me your threat to change my view to conform to yours! That is a threat and a violation!

 

[flynryan15]

Hope a lot of guys sent him FB messages. I got the same reply.

So he expects us to believe the EAL SCAB listed as reference on his resume didn't tell him what he was doing?