Looking for one Hawaii approach plate...

[Freight Dog]

hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

You already sound like an Island Air pilot. I haven't tried this since I don't use a pager, but here's what I think...

You know those little plastic containers for the money that you hang around your neck? I'm thinking.. if you can find a small enough pager or even a small cell phone, and fit it in there, I think it just may work. You just gotta make sure it's waterproof.

Otherwise, you'd have to take turns with someone - while one surfs, the other watches the phone/pager.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Whatever it takes! Say, how long does one have to get to the airport when called in for reserve? Mahalo...

 

[Freight Dog]

You have 10 minutes to call dispatch back, and a minimum of an hour to get to the airport.

 

[avi8tr]

Hey guy's,

I didn't get the job. Good luck, and congratulations again for those that did. Fly safe, and enjoy.

Av8ter

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

I'm sorry to hear you didn't get the job this time around. Keep flyin' and here's hoping you get the job you want soon! Aloha.

 

[Freight Dog]

Keep pluggin' away! It's not the end of the world. Check out ACA, they're hiring too.


Good luck!

 

[CARVEMASTER]

Mr. Hugh,
RE: Waterproof pager.

After searching for the perfect set up, here's what I ended up with. First, I bought this small first aid kit that came in a heavy duty ziplock bag. Dumped the contents and put my pager in. Sealed it very carefully with duct tape. Also purchased one of those "waterproof" bags with velcro closure and neck string. Place the small ziplock bag containing the pager inside the velcro sealed bag. Since the velcro "waterproof" bag is anything but waterproof, seal the top very carefully with duct tape. Place string around neck so pager hangs at the center of back. Wear rash guard over it.

For surfing, it's hard to get back in and to a phone within 10 minutes, but easy to throw your stuff in the car and head to work within the hour. For windsurfing, you can get to a phone in no time, but it takes more effort to pack things up and head on in to work.

I've done it, but usually only when I'm way down the list on reserves. I also usually call in to let them know what I'm doing, and that I have my pager with me in the water. I was paged once while windsurfing. Got to the phone in 3 minutes, but they only called to tell me I was flying the NEXT day.

Outer bag leaked once, but inner bag saved the pager.

 

[dondk]

reserve

What is reserve running these days?


At the interview it was alluded to about 3 months... Is that reasonable?


Any thoughts too on places to reside while in training and thereafter?

Thanks for any input...

Don

 

[Freight Dog]

That's some creative thinking there Carveboy, very practical..

How long on reserve, Don? Well, let me put it to you this way.. the senior people in the newhire class that are in the sim right now will be holding lines in July or August.

Keep in mind that you'll be flying a lot during your first 3 months to get you your 100 hours in type... by the time you get your 100 hours, you'll have a line, or be darn close to holding one.

As for places to live...

when I first came out here, I stayed in Waikiki. There are places that will rent you rooms for like $200-250/week. By the time I was done with training I had found a permanent place.

 

[dondk]

Freight Dog

Thanks for the info...

I "heard" reserve could be short... Heck where I am I still have another 6 months to go and that is after putting in 5 months.

My significant other is looking for places to reside in Hawaii... She is telling me unless I plan on having 3 jobs it is not gonna happen... Where should I have her "look"...

Thanks for any info... also, any sites or info on how to ship things over?

Thanks...

don

 

[Tweety]

Can any of you Island Air guys give me an idea of your typical schedules? # of days worked per month, time you start, time you stop, how many legs you fly a day. Where does the training take place, do they pay you while in training, do they provide a hotel during training? Thanx for any info!

 

[dash8driver]

dondk

some people do have more than one job here to pull it off. if you have an SO it can help out greatly if they can get a "real job" to balance things out. once you make captain its not so bad. if not you can plan on sharing an apartment with other people. the rent here is comparable to the bay area and some places in LA. its possible to get an appartment for 900-1000/mo. maybe even less in some cases.

some advice on places to reside in hawaii. be aware that in some areas there are a lot of duplexes or "apartments" that are built onto or out of the side of a house. my opinion on those are "dont go there". i would suggest getting a temporary place to stay while you scout out a more permanent place. you may be able to room with pilots that are already here, or you could stay at a hotel or hostel (hostels are about 20/nite last i checked).

your needs will really dictate where you're going to live. i can best tell you where NOT to move. do not move to the towns of waianae or nanakuli. not only is the drive really long from there, those towns have a history of not being the most welcoming. its not anywhere like it used to be, but there are a lot of better places to live. it is also the hottest and driest there.

waimanalo, wailua, haleiwa and the north shore in general along with hauula, punaluu, kaaawa are all really nice places to live but the drives are long from those places. (wailua will probably have some cheap rent because its "remote". keep in mind that our definition of "long drive" is much different than what most people on the mainland are used to. i live 20-30 min from the airport and thats perfect for me and almost no traffic. 45min-1hr + is a long drive here. mainly because sometimes a lot of it is done a small road/highway like when you're coming from hauula.

if you dont mind living in an apartment building and want to be close to the airport you can look at places in the area called Salt Lake. places can be fairly cheap, its about 5-10 min from the airport. drawbacks are you have to live in a building, if you have more than 1 car you have to make sure your place comes with 2 parking stalls because street parking there sucks... not impossible but it sucks. also another place with relatively cheaper apartments (farther from the airport but IMO a nicer area) is makiki.

shipping. if you still have your fedex discount you could consider using that. but first check your yellow pages for "freight forwarders" the prices can vary greatly from company to company, depending on the routing each one has to take and the contracts that they have, so check them all. its much cheaper than using a moving company or many other means. some charge by weight and others charge by cubic foot.

if you have any places you are considering or want more specific info on a certain area or place, PM me and i'll give you as much info as i can.


8driver

 

[dash8driver]

tweety

typical schedules. we work between 15 and 19 days a month (bid line), 20 days reserve. the rest of the summer will probably be filled with mostly 19 day lines. we have preferential bidding and we dont RON so we dont have 4on 3off type trips. your days can fall anywhere in the month within the FAR restrictions (7 days, etc). depending on your seniority you can get long stretches of days off without using vacation. i have had 10 scheduled days off in a row before.

the lines are broken down into AM, PM and mixed. AM lines currently have showtimes of 0430, 0515, 0535, 0610, etc. we have had 8am showtimes too. the AM people usually get off between 12 and 1. sometimes a little earlier and sometimes later, it changes around a bit when the schedule changes. PM lines have showtimes of of around 1130, 1230, etc. and they get off at about 8-9pm. we have had times where some lines got off as early as 7pm and some that didnt get off til as late as 10pm.

legs per day is between 6 and 10. we have had times where we only had 8 and 10 leg days. currently we have 1 6-leg, 2 10-leg and the rest are 8 legs.

the ground school takes place at the classroom in the hangar. the sim is at flight safety in seattle. they do not pay you while you are in ground school, and they do not give you a hotel in ground school. at the sim each person is given their own hotel room. many people stay at a hostel here while they're in ground school and wind up becomming roommates with some of their classmates. some people here are already sharing a place and from time to time they have room and they get filled up with a new hire.

if you are hired and are going to be out here for class and you want to see if there are any vacancies in any of the pilot houses, PM me and i'll check around.

8driver

 

[Tweety]

Dash8Driver- Thanks so much for the info, it's much appreciated!!!

 

[Freight Dog]

Re: tweety

they do not pay you while you are in ground school, and they do not give you a hotel in ground school.

8driver

Actually, that's not accurate. They do pay $10/hr during your initial ground school which before taxes amounts to $400/wk. However, they do not give you a hotel in ground school.

You also get $10/hr while you are on company-time in CPT which is I think 4 hours, and you get your 1st year FO pay for all the time you spend in the sim, but not your guarantee yet.