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[Clipper_Aurora]

I beg to differ,

Oil Now under $70 a barrell, 50 seaters "full" now make money. You put PSA side by side with AIR WIS, SH$TAGUA, and even MESA, PSA comes out on top for being the cheapest 50 seater operation in US AIRWAYS, Airways gives all these contract carriers a profit (fee for departure) for every flight they do + AIR WIS can't even single engine taxi, they burn 3 engines in nice long lines in Philly, LGA etc etc. PSA now being a wholly owned all they do is pay for what it is actually costing them to fly the plane IE CHEAPER. PSA isn't losing money, there is no way to tell that, it's all funny money all US' cash. They made all the cuts because Parker has control over us, he told TK "cut costs".......Parker has no control over the contract boys because of "the contract"

When oil was at $140, the 50 seaters lose money, now that it is around $65 I feel comfy, PSA now puts some black ink over the red.

Makes financial since to merge PSA PEIDMONT, I just hope it doesn't happen

BLUUUUUUE

 

[NCFlyer]

Makes financial since to merge PSA PEIDMONT, I just hope it doesn't happen

BLUUUUUUE

Not wanting to start an argument but I think there would be minimal savings if the two were merged.

SSO already handles most of the administrative work for both companies. i.e. hotel, fuel contracts, payroll, & now even flight support (monthly scheduling). So would be little or no cost saving there.

If they merge the 2 companies they may be able to cut out some middle management (chief pilots, inflight directors, training department) but the combined company would still need all the pilots, F/A's, mechanics, dispatchers, & possibly crew schedulers.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Not wanting to start an argument but I think there would be minimal savings if the two were merged.

SSO already handles most of the administrative work for both companies. i.e. hotel, fuel contracts, payroll, & now even flight support (monthly scheduling). So would be little or no cost saving there.

If they merge the 2 companies they may be able to cut out some middle management (chief pilots, inflight directors, training department) but the combined company would still need all the pilots, F/A's, mechanics, dispatchers, & possibly crew schedulers.

...To say nothing of the fact that they would also be creating larger bargaining units they would have to deal with. I doubt it will happen.

 

[Clipper_Aurora]

good point

 

[ex j-41]

Did a flight in the CRJ 200 out of FAY to CLT. We had 15 heavy's, 34 Checked Bags. 5 Carry'ons.
The fee for the bags covered our fuel even if it was at $3/gallon. Then they had the revenue from the passengers. It's all crap that the 50's don't make money. They do. The difference from a Dash to a CRJ for that flight is just $140. And the dash would be weight restricted. How good is your customer service if the bags don't make it to your destination?
The CRJ's are just fine for what they do. Don't buy into this rumor that they aren't cost effective, its just a scheme by management to lower labor costs and now everyone thinks it is true. And it ain't.

 

[OurMoney1]

Aurora you keep thinking PSA is making money....no 50 seat operation is making money at $70/barrel, the hourly cost to operate this a/c is higher than the net. At best it is a break even operation and with so many variables I even doubt that.

If the aircraft was a money maker the assembly line wouldn't have closed when oil was passing through the $40/barrel range. Orders would have still been coming in, they were not. Denial is bliss buts miles from the truth. The RJ has met a cost wall that puts PSA and other operators in a vulnerable position.

And to visit an old topic/and do a little cross talking; How are your PAs these days? Have you had to do a carpet dance lately for your attempts to color outside of the professional box? Couldnt help myself....

 

[WSurf]

Did a flight in the CRJ 200 out of FAY to CLT. We had 15 heavy's, 34 Checked Bags. 5 Carry'ons.
The fee for the bags covered our fuel even if it was at $3/gallon. Then they had the revenue from the passengers. It's all crap that the 50's don't make money. They do. The difference from a Dash to a CRJ for that flight is just $140. And the dash would be weight restricted. How good is your customer service if the bags don't make it to your destination?
The CRJ's are just fine for what they do. Don't buy into this rumor that they aren't cost effective, its just a scheme by management to lower labor costs and now everyone thinks it is true. And it ain't.

Dash 8/300 could carry that without restrictions. Now that we are talking numbers, the CRJ burns 1500lbs more then the Dash 8 on a CLT-EWN round trip. So for every 2 round trips in the Dash you could get the 3rd for free when compared to the CRJ.

Bottom line, if the flight is less then an hour it is way more cost effective to fly the Dash 8.

 

[paulsalem]

$150/flight is huge. There are 5 round trips on a 200 on 10/26/08 and 2 round trip in the 700.

So 5 round trips is 10 flights. 10*$150=$1,500. x 300 days a year =$450,000.

That is one city. Now do the same for
AVL
GSP
GSO
PGV
OAJ


Get Q400s (and/or Q400x) and you can replace 50% or more of the Express RJs.

 

[Clipper_Aurora]

OurMoney1

my PA's are getting better and better everyday, you should come for a ride one day and enjoy

 

[Dragonbravo]

I beg to differ,


Makes financial since to merge PSA PEIDMONT, I just hope it doesn't happen

BLUUUUUUE

So when was the last time any airline did something that made financial sense?

I asked TK once what the break even on the airplane was and he told me with a straight face that they don't even keep track of that.

 

[Smoking Man]

TK will do or say whatever it takes to get the job he is told to do done.

IMHO