Looking for new hire stats. @ SWA

[avoidingmyboss]

I would to know about what type of flying that people did before going to SWA? How much TT? PIC turbine? What type of aircraft? Part 121/91 or 135? Military experience? Just a brief run down on prior experience would help me. Thanks AMB

 

[race#53]

Avoidingyourboss,
Looks like 4000 TT and 1500 pic turbine is average and 35 years old, 50-50 civ, mil.
You probably won't get too many replies but you can go to the pool list and check all but pic times there.

 

[gator]

Average age from the lists I have seen is 37.5. Thanks.

 

[avoidingmyboss]

race#53 and gator thanks for your replies. If any one else wants to chim in I would really appreciate it. I just want to see how my stats compare to the people that have been hired and to see if there is anything else I can do to become more competitive.

 

[PSL]

For what it's worth:

At the time I was hired my stats were ...

37 yrs old, male, FAR 121/Corporate, Graduate Degree, Married

TT: 14,200
ME: 11,150
PIC: 10,350
TPIC: 4200 (SWA PIC is limited to the person who signed for the A/C)

Best of luck to you.

 

[juan2go]

FWIW

5600 TT
2300 PIC Turbine
All Civilian/Part 135
Age 27

 

[InHot]

When I was hired:

Age 49
9800 total
5000 PIC
6000 ME
Military/Part121/135/91

 

[OakRBust]

31 years old
6000 total
2500 Turbine PIC Part 121 Regional
(all in Saabs no jet)
Bachelors

 

[RJones]

42ish
10,000TT
7,500+PIC Turbine
Part 91, 135, 121
No college
High School Dropout (GED)

 

[juan2go]

RJones,

Is that C140 a Cessna or Cherokee.

Cessna for me.

 

[RJones]

I'm pretty sure piper aircraft start with a "PA." But yes, it's a Cessna 140.

RJ

 

[juan2go]

Good point! See how long it's been since I've flown one.

 

[YeOldeProp]

Hey RJones...impressive list of aircraft flown, but one catches the attention a bit more than the others. How about explaining the Fw-190E? Is that the vintage WWII type, or something else? Know some folks with Confederate Air Force time, but pretty much all in US warbirds. Just curious...

 

[RJones]

Yes, experimental. My father and I built it, took 14.5 years to build. Oh, should add. NOT wood, all metal and stressed for plus or minus 6g's. It's in a back issue EAA sport mag. don't know which one.

RJ

 

[jimEJet]

Slipped through the cracks to be here

AGE 33 when hired.

6000 TT

3800 PIC JET

500 PIC TURBO PROP

JUST VERY LUCKY AND PATIENTLY AWAITING CALL FROM LINDSEY

 

[stb]

I would expect the times will...

drastically increase for the mid-2004 interviews.

My guess would be
7000 plus TT
5000 plus PIC, majority jet
B-737 time in A/C.

With MetroJet, Delta Express and United Shuttle pilots/Captains on the street, quality of time will increase.

No flame is intended to any group.
Just stating that after a year of commuter pilots gaining flight time, year full of furloughs from various airlines and the increase of military operational flying that competative flight times will increase.

 

[GogglesPisano]

How is seniority determined in class? DOB, SSN (or how many shots you can down ?)

 

[LiveFreeorDie]

I was hired with

1500 JET PIC
3500 Total
31 years young

Almost all military. Since then I have gotten my CFI and am teaching ranchers, grandmas, and coeds to fly in SW Oklahoma.

 

[GEO]

seniority in class is determined by age.

 

[avoidingmyboss]

Wow! Those times are impressive. I don’t know whether to be depressed or happy they are hiring. RJones I am almost a high school drop with a BS, thank god for spell check. PSL where did you get the DSH-8 time?

I hope they like the fact that I will have the type when I apply. Thanks again guys I’m sure I will have more questions later.
AMB

 

[PSL]

The DHC-8 time was with Pennsylvania Airlines. There was a merger in 1992 with Suburban Airlines (they were also a USAir Express carrier hubbed in RDG (if memory serves) and the name Allegheny was taken to preserve it for USAir.

SL

 

[avoidingmyboss]

Is that what PSL stands for?

AMB

 

[Cyclone]

spell check

Avoiding my boss...quote: "I don’t know weather to be depressed or happy they are hiring. RJones I am almost a high school drop with a BS, thank god for spell check. PSL where did you get the DSH-8 time?"


Spell check won't always help...whether you use it or not.

 

[avoidingmyboss]

I get it now! LOL They also have this thing called "edit" next to the "quote" at the bottum. Uh oh @#$*ing spell check!

 

[PSL]

Nope ... it's nothing more complicated that my children's initials.

 

[HPaul3]

No college
High School Dropout (GED)

RJ, You are my hero. I mean that! I'd like to meet you someday (I'll get back to DAL for training, then to MDW someday from active duty AF reserves) and the Wild Turkey is on me.

Just goes to show you...the numbers on the application will only get you so far. Southwest hires the person. Good luck Mr. Avoiding!

Cheers!
HP

 

[RJones]

I appreciate that HPaul3, however, I would like to make it clear that I do not recommend doing it my way...it was the hard way. I should have finished High School and gone onto College, I would have been here at SWA much earlier building that seniority.

My advise to all is to finish school. Then, either fly in the military or come up the civilian route…either way is good. What it all boils down to is getting that seniority number at the earliest possible age.

How bout a Shiner Bock instead.

RJ

 

[Ty Webb]

I'm pretty sure piper aircraft start with a "PA." But yes, it's a Cessna 140.

RJ

The Cherokee is the PA28-140. What's the difference? 20 years and 40 knots!

I had the pleasure of spending 28.5 hours in a Cessna 140 during Spring Break one year; we flew it from Southern IL (SIU!) to Key West and back.

After takeoff on the return flight , poking through Tampa's airspace in the early morning, the controller broke the silence by asking us what our final destination was. "Carbondale, IL, sir" was our response. After a long pause he said, "Might as well drive, don;t you think?".

Yeah, but the view was so much better.

 

[T1bubba]

HP,

You probably met RJ at the welcome aboard party our class threw for you guys. So when is Uncle Sam gonna let you come fly with us?

In the interest of minimizing thread creep-

2800 TT, all turbine
1500 jet PIC
31 years old when hired

T1

 

[HPaul3]

When hired:

Total time about 4500, all military turbine
PIC about 2200, most of it instructor time
36 years old

T1,

I wish I knew, brother! Probably spring of 2005. No weakening of the demand for strategic airlift, that's for sure. Right now I'm spending about 90% of my time away from home, but I have been getting back to see the wife and kids more than I expected.

I think we'll have orders in hand for another year (extending from Feb 04) very soon. I'll let you know when/if that happens.

Take care and keep in touch! I miss y'all and the company too.

Seeya!
HP