Looking for info from Gulfstream pilots

[ProPilot5]

Any comments on company, management, pay, duty times ect?

How are the lines, hour wise per month?

Are the bases still Ft. Lauderdale, EYW and MIA?

How is the seniority there, ie which base is preferred.

Captain pay and pay increase, do captains get used in training academy?

Do they use Sim for training or all in aircraft

How are the Bahama's flown, IFR/VFR, GPS?

Word on aircraft and increased flying from planes received from AirMidwest(US Airways express).

Thanks for any and all info.

 

[flying4food]

Oh Boy,,

Here we go again, the flame thrower was just ignited!!!

 

[The_Russian]

GIA is where the heart is!

Ok......
I will answer quick because I have little time. I am assuming you are trying for a Captain position.

Company is great to work for and I have had no problems with managment. We have some of the best work rules in the regional industry and we are IBT 747 with an amendable contract in summer 2005. Pay is industry standard for the BE-1900.

The lines are 90-100 hours a month with 13-16 days off. Overnights are short and are in EYW, NAS, FPO, TPA, GNV, and JAX.

Bases are MIA, FLL, PBI co-base, and EYW, and TPA.

Lowest seniority is EYW, while highest seniority are in PBI and TPA.

Captains fly with the F/O program students and the permanent hire F/O's. IOE Captains recieve a pay override.

Level D Sim for training with 15% of the checkride done in the aircraft.

Bahamas are flown to more of a composite style. Full route IFR with a cancellation. Garmin 400 GPS. Working on approach certification.

Lots of increased flying in the near future. EMB-120 flying for the future. Great place to be if you want PIC time and don't want to be a lifetime FO. Excellent group of people to fly with and hang out with after work. It's not like everyone says it is, they don't know what they are talking about. Good luck!

 

[Vik]

I don't think so. Looks like he's a Capt thats gonna be hired off the street.

He signed up here in Nov 2002, not a day ago and he's got more than 2 posts.

Oh Boy,,

Here we go again, the flame thrower was just ignited!!!

 

[thorburner]

Run away please

 

[aeronautic1]

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Last time I checked with Gulfscream (and I live right down the street from them), you had to go thru their F/O program to get in the right seat. What was that, $24K and no type rating at the back end of training. Gulfstream told me personally that they do not hire professional F/Os from the street. Better to fly with Tropical, Yellow Air Taxi, Twin Air, Florida Coast Airlines and all the other air taxis out of Ft. Lauaderdale and build some QUALITY multi PIC time.

Sounds like the commie is towing the GA/PFT line.

 

[The_Russian]

Thorburner,

WTF do you know about GIA? Don't say sh!t unless you have some first hand experience.

Aeronautic1,

I think I know who you are and you have posted on this subject before. I did a LOT of work at FXE where you used to fly if you are who I think you are. The GIA F/O program is not PFT. Period. Nobody buys a job at GIA. The Fast Track Capt. program however IS PFT. We are trying our best to stop it from the union side.

How is FCA, Yellow, Tropical, or Twin Air better time than 121 Be-1900 time? Call up anyone hiring pilots and they will take a GIA grad before anyone from there. Once I upgrade in Feb. it will be 121 PIC Be-1900 time. I know all about those little 135 ops at FLL and FXE and they are not all you make them out to be. They rape you worse on pay that GIA does or any other turboprop regional.

 

[AAflyer]

Thorburner,

WTF do you know about GIA? Don't say sh!t unless you have some first hand experience.

Aeronautic1,

I think I know who you are and you have posted on this subject before. I did a LOT of work at FXE where you used to fly if you are who I think you are. The GIA F/O program is not PFT. Period. Nobody buys a job at GIA. The Fast Track Capt. program however IS PFT. We are trying our best to stop it from the union side.

How is FCA, Yellow, Tropical, or Twin Air better time than 121 Be-1900 time? Call up anyone hiring pilots and they will take a GIA grad before anyone from there. Once I upgrade in Feb. it will be 121 PIC Be-1900 time. I know all about those little 135 ops at FLL and FXE and they are not all you make them out to be. They rape you worse on pay that GIA does or any other turboprop regional.

Ok, let me get this straight. To become an F/O one must PFT for 200 hundred hours, then get hired. Once hired the F/Os are now pissed that people with more time are PFTing a captain's job ahead of them, even though most do not have anywhere near 1500TT. To top this you are having the union fight this?
I thought I heard it all.

AAflyer
STOP DRINKING and READING THESE MESSAGE BOARDS

 

[thorburner]

At gulfstream you now have to buy a job. its 60 grand and you will be paid 8$ an hour untill you get 1500 then they upgrade you. but what about people with a higher number than you do they get the shaft or do you but you paid 60 grand its something that is going to blow up in there face very soon with the union.

 

[FO 4 Life]

GIA is hiring captains off the street.

 

[JohnnyP]

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For the guys at GIA that end up moving on to other carriers, I'd think that since we all know that a lot of us pilots dont agree with the practice of GIA's PFT or whatever it is, that you all would probably dread a new trip with a new captain. This is because eventually sometime during the first few legs you two will get into a discussion about your hometown, school, etc and then on to where you were flying at before ABC Airline...The trip might begin something like this---- "So, timmy, whered you fly at before this.".... "well jim, i was at GIA on the B1900 (mumbled below normal conversation level in hopes the capt. doesnt pick most of it up)" ..... "Oh really, so you were hired off the street, right? You didnt just pay all that cash to ride along, did you? "......"Ahh, ehh, well, I, yea, I,----**CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**it-----"......"Ah. I see--------" I remember hearing this gulf streamer brag to some captains about how he did GIA, i couldnt help but cringe, I was feeling embarassed for him. Yall know that feeling right, when ya get embarassed for someone else even when you arent even in the situation. Ok this post is off topic, Merry Christmas....Or is it "Happy Holidays" now?......

 

[JohnnyP]

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[crzepilot]

JohnnyP wishes he flew for an outstanding organization like GIA. NO I agree with Johnny P, most new hires with the company I work for that have previously worked for GIA are overly cocky and completely numb to the fact that they blew a good chunk of change. Then again I only know a handful of these guys but overall they are looked down upon. They are second rate citizens more like a zygote they are not human maybe even a paramecium.

 

[The_Russian]

Get it straight......

At gulfstream you now have to buy a job.

You don't have to buy a job at GIA. You can do the F/O program and go on to another regional. Which is not PFT. The Fast Track Captain program is PFT. You buy a job when you enroll in that program. That is wrong. Building some time is not. You need to learn about GIA before you all talk about it. I invite you to come see our facility and talk to our people. He11, I'll even plug you in to the CVR and you can observe while jumpseating. Then you will see how it really is.

None of you know a danm thing about GIA or do you know what you are talking about when you post on any GIA threads.

For the guys at GIA that end up moving on to other carriers, I'd think that since we all know that a lot of us pilots dont agree with the practice of GIA's PFT or whatever it is, that you all would probably dread a new trip with a new captain. This is because eventually sometime during the first few legs you two will get into a discussion about your hometown, school, etc and then on to where you were flying at before ABC Airline...The trip might begin something like this---- "So, timmy, whered you fly at before this.".... "well jim, i was at GIA on the B1900 (mumbled below normal conversation level in hopes the capt. doesnt pick most of it up)" ..... "Oh really, so you were hired off the street, right? You didnt just pay all that cash to ride along, did you? "......"Ahh, ehh, well, I, yea, I,----**CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**it -----"......"Ah. I see--------" I remember hearing this gulf streamer brag to some captains about how he did GIA, i couldnt help but cringe, I was feeling embarassed for him. Yall know that feeling right, when ya get embarassed for someone else even when you arent even in the situation.

I don't think anyone really cares except you. Anyone who disrespects someone for getting his training at GIA is an a$$. And an uneducated one at that. Do you think you EARNED a stupid flying job anymore than myself or a GIA grad?? Get over yourself.

JohnnyP wishes he flew for an outstanding organization like GIA. NO I agree with Johnny P, most new hires with the company I work for that have previously worked for GIA are overly cocky and completely numb to the fact that they blew a good chunk of change. Then again I only know a handful of these guys but overall they are looked down upon. They are second rate citizens more like a zygote they are not human maybe even a paramecium.

Wow......where do I start? You made the biggest a$$hole remark I have ever heard on this board. F-U sir. Second rate citizens???? Where do you get off saying that. Are you better than us? When your mommy made you did the gold condom break??? Cocky and Numb??? Hmmm....I spent less money in my flight training than anyone attending any college flight program, FSI, DCI, Pan Am, FIT, ERAU, etc. And you are not cocky by making this statement? Get a life. And a hobby. Oh, and please get laid dude so you won't be so angry at people who are successful in their careers.

All of you need to shut up about GIA unless you work there, have worked there, or are a student there. You all know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about GIA and what you say on here is misinterpreted BS that you come up with in your lonely spare time.

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

None of you know a danm thing about GIA or do you know what you are talking about when you post on any GIA threads.

It's not that I don't know anything about GIA, it's just that I don't care.

You don't have to buy a job at GIA. You can do the F/O program and go on to another regional. Which is not PFT. The Fast Track Captain program is PFT. You buy a job when you enroll in that program. That is wrong. Building some time is not. You need to learn about GIA before you all talk about it.

What it boils down to is that it IS PFT. Russian, after reading your posts, you appear to be trying very hard to convince the readers that the FO program isn't PFT. Label it what you wish, but the rest of the world will continue to see it for what it really is: PFT.
GIA's normal practice is not to hire real, current & qualfied professional F/O's. That is because they're such a greedy small company, they need all the financial breaks they can get, so not only do they not hire real F/O's on a salary, they put student pilots in the right seat and make them pay the airline to fly their glorious piece of crap turboprop. These PFT kids riding in the right seat with you are paying your salary. What a great deal for the company!!
Based not only on safety issues, but mainly ethical concerns, I will never again fly on or allow a member of my family to fly on GIA. I used to fly them regularly in the past, and couldn't believe what a rinky-dink operation GIA is. At that time, I didn't realize that they were PFT; I guess that explains alot.
Russian, you're probably a nice fellow and I'm assuming that you're the big fish in a little pond over at GIA. However, deep down inside you know you're a PFT'er and you realize you're stuck at GIA unless you miraculously get hired at an airline who fails to notice that you are a GIA PFT'er.