logging right seat in a twin cessna?

[minitour]

That wasn't the question - I just wanted to know where it said cargo operators need no autopilot. Me thinks flying single pilot with no autopilot in a 1900/Merlin is crazy nuts and would significantly shorten any pilots life span - but darn good experience none-the-less.

~wheelsup

135.101 specifies that carrying passengers IFR requires an SIC or (acc'd to 135.105) an approved autopilot in place of an SIC.

-mini

 

[wheelsup]

135.101 specifies that carrying passengers IFR requires an SIC or (acc'd to 135.105) an approved autopilot in place of an SIC.

-mini

Yep, got it from imacdog, but thanks .

~wheelsup

 

[minitour]

Yep, got it from imacdog, but thanks .

~wheelsup

im a little..............................................slow























sometimes

-mini

 

[midlifeflyer]

FAR 135.

Can you be more specific? Like the sentence that says so?

 

[midlifeflyer]

That wasn't the question - I just wanted to know where it said cargo operators need no autopilot.

Same answer: you don't need a regulation to say that you =don't= have to have an autopilot. Unless the equipment is required, say by type certificate, manufacturer equipment list, or a regulation (like 135.105), you'd need a regulation to say that cargo operators =do= need one.

 

[j41driver]

Can you be more specific? Like the sentence that says so?

Sorry, no.

I went through aircraft specific training at my company on the C340, C421 and C441. At the completion of that training I had to go to AGC (Allegheny FSDO) for Part 135 SIC checkrides for each airplane. I had an oral (each time) with an FAA Inspector (happened to be our POI) and then I had a flight check in each aircraft. At the completion of the flight checks the FAA Inspector filled out some paperwork (not sure of the name or doc number) that stated that I satisfied all requirements to be an SIC on a C340 (or C421 or C441). Not sure why anyone would go through that and not log any of it....

 

[Lil Jon]

thanks for all the replies. i learned a bit more about 135 regs.

 

[wheelsup]

Same answer: you don't need a regulation to say that you =don't= have to have an autopilot. Unless the equipment is required, say by type certificate, manufacturer equipment list, or a regulation (like 135.105), you'd need a regulation to say that cargo operators =do= need one.

The horse is dead already....no need to keep beating it lol.


~wheelsup

 

[minitour]

The horse is dead already....no need to keep beating it lol.


~wheelsup

huh huh...."beating it" huh huh....

 

[midlifeflyer]

Not sure why anyone would go through that and not log any of it....

Perhaps when the FAA doesn't authorize it and might consider it logbook falsification?