LOGGING HOURs QUESTION

[ftld81]

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Correct,...if a type rating is required..which a 402 doesnt reaquire...u just need com/mult/inst and ur good to go....

therefore an SIC can log PIC time as the sole manipulator of the aircraft.

ps...anyone know of any outfits in south florida that will hire me?..260tt here..60 multi

 

[brokeflyer]

Correct,...if a type rating is required..which a 402 doesnt reaquire...u just need com/mult/inst and ur good to go....

therefore an SIC can log PIC time as the sole manipulator of the aircraft.

ps...anyone know of any outfits in south florida that will hire me?..260tt here..60 multi

there's about 400 flight schools....try one of those.

 

[flipper66]

Here's another related but somewhat odd situation:

If you're SIC in an aircraft requiring 2 pilots (SIC not type rated, but checked out and signed off as Part 135 SIC), and want to use the time for the requirements of 61.159(a)(4) 250 hours PIC or "SIC performing the duties of PIC while under the supervision of PIC"

according to the FAA (Part 61 FAQ's with Chg #21 10/12/2004) the intent of that statement in 61.159(a)(4) is for when the SIC is the Pilot flying, AND "acting" as the PIC (crew management, breifings, flight plans, fuel loads, etc). The FAA FAQ goes into more detail, but thought it was worth mentioning...

Note they indicate (same document) that the PIC should endorse their logbook as follows:

"Performed duties as a supervised PIC in accordance with 61.159(a)(4)" [signature], ATP#12345678

 

[avbug]

While the "FAQ" is not official FAA policy and at times incorrect (and often opinion without official sanction), it is in this case correct in substance.

There's still a clear distinction between performing the duties of PIC, and acting as PIC. If one is recording the flight time for the purposes of meeting 61.159(a)(4), then one should also record details regarding the PIC for verification. (The PIC need not sign the logbook).

 

[PURPLEHAZE21]

How to scam an hour...The big question is simple: When an accident or incident occurs with your airplane, who is going to be the official PIC and talk to the FAA ?