Logbook ?

[TO024]

There are two columns in my logbook: NR and NR
T/O LDG

I am pretty sure the T/O is for takeoff, and the LDG is for landing? What does the NR stand for?

Thanks

 

[Flying Illini]

Who makes the logbook?

 

[SentryIP]

Just An Abbreviation

I think "NR" stands for "number" of takeoffs (T/O) and landings (LDG).

 

[TO024]

Jeppesen logbook

 

[TO024]

Is my flight instructor supposed to log how many takeoffs and landings I do in my logbook?

 

[English]

Yes, but if he/she doesn't, it's ok for you to write it in.

Soon you'll be making the logbook entries on your own (when you solo). So, if you don't understand something, be sure to ask questions while your instructor is filling out your logbook.

 

[pilotman2105]

Is my flight instructor supposed to log how many takeoffs and landings I do in my logbook?

That becomes important for currency reasons later in your training. You'll have to have made 3 takeoffs and landings in the previous 90 days before you can take passengers up.

 

[TO024]

I have soloed, and he didnt let me log it. He entered it in. What if I dont remember how many I did?

 

[English]

Many instructors begin to have students make their own entries right after solo to 1) learn how to do it with supervision and 2) to encourage independence. Perhaps your instructor hasn't though of these things. If you WANT to start logging your flights when you solo, just find a non-threatening way to bring it up, and talk about it. You are able to talk to your instructor openly, right?

When you write that he didn't let you log it yourself, was that after you asked him if you could log it yourself, or did he just log as usual? It could be that he was just hurried and didn't think of the ramifications of not offering to have you begin to log your own flights.

 

[TO024]

Its no big deal, I just didnt think I was supposed to yet. Thanks everyone for the help.

 

[VNugget]

Does anyone find it strange that they'd have a separate column for takeoffs and landings? I thought the whole name of the game in aviation was keeping them equal!

I have that same logbook, and for a while have been entering just one number, and writing the 3-digit total across both boxes (there's no way anybody could fit a 3 or 4 digit number in that tiny little square!)

 

[SDCFI]

Maybe I'm just lazy but I had my students fill out their logbooks from the first flight. The first couple times I told them what to write, after they got it down they'd do it all and I'd just check it for accuracy and sign it. Not second-guessing your instructor or anything, but why doesn't he/she trust you to fill it out? I always felt it was a source of pride for a new student to fill it out themselves.

 

[VNugget]

As a (very) recent student, I agree with you wholeheartedly.

Come on, what kind of message does it send across when your CFI can't trust you to fill a couple of boxes correctly? It's really not rocket science, we're all big boys and girls. And he's gonna trust you to fly an airplane solo?

 

[TO024]

I dont think its a trust issue. He just always fills it out.

 

[Jedi_Cheese]

The other question is how is the CFI going to log it for you when you solo after the first time? I did solos when my CFI wasn't at the airport anymore (or was up in the air with another student) after I landed.

Plus if you have any questions about your logbook, ask your CFI. You can now solo and are responsible for keeping yourself current with the signatures and requirements. Plus you need to know how to log flights should you fly solo again and your CFI isn't around to walk you through the procedures.

I wouldn't worry about not logging takeoffs and landings b/c they aren't needed yet (except for ones at a controlled field).

 

[midlifeflyer]

There is actually a pretty good reason why many CFIs make most of the entries. The FAR have requirements about what maneuvers must be taught and logged for each certificate and rating. The CFI (should) know what they are, but the student isn't expected to.

But, that reason ends with solo flight. The the day of first solo, I only write the entry for the dual part and insist my student make his own separate entry for the solo part.

Does anyone find it strange that they'd have a separate column for takeoffs and landings? I thought the whole name of the game in aviation was keeping them equal!

Not all logbooks do that and they might not be equal. You may fly with someone else with one pilot doing the takeoff and the other the landing. Or, you take off during the day and land at night. It really =is= a bit of overkill, but these are situations in which, without more, you may be missing the "takeoff and landing" needed for currency.

I have soloed, and he didn't let me log it. He entered it in. What if I don't remember how many I did?

As pilotman indicated, there are only a few times that the number of landings becomes important. One is the day that you begin to carry passengers. The others are when the requirements for a certificate or rating require a certain number like the "10 takeoffs and 10 landings" at night required for the private certificate. So, don't worry about it.

 

[TO024]

Thanks

TO024