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[ackattacker]

So in a 2-pilot certified aircraft flying 135 charter with the autopilot on (Lear, Gulfstream, Challenger): the FO cannot log SIC?

This doesn't really deserve a response. Or are you being sarcastic?

 

[avbug]

Weather the autopilot is working or not isn't relevant, as Part 135 requires the SIC for instrument operations...the fact that the company may be authorized single pilot with autopilot in lieu of an SIC is irrelevant...if the company has instituted a training program for the SIC and one is qualified under that program, the company also has the option of using the SIC. The autopilot does not need to be nonfunctional in order to log the time.

 

[ackattacker]

Weather the autopilot is working or not isn't relevant, as Part 135 requires the SIC for instrument operations...the fact that the company may be authorized single pilot with autopilot in lieu of an SIC is irrelevant...if the company has instituted a training program for the SIC and one is qualified under that program, the company also has the option of using the SIC. The autopilot does not need to be nonfunctional in order to log the time.

You're right, and I knew better. Sigh. Still, the autopilot inop is a convenient way to NEED an SIC. Makes it look more legit, ya know?

 

[nosehair]

You're right, and I knew better. Sigh. Still, the autopilot inop is a convenient way to NEED an SIC. Makes it look more legit, ya know?

That's all our problem - trying to rationalize or make some sense of the 61.51 regs. They don't even pretend to make logical sense. They are black-and-white "one-size-fits-all" typical goverment regulation.

 

[xdashdriver]

Weather the autopilot is working or not isn't relevant, as Part 135 requires the SIC for instrument operations...the fact that the company may be authorized single pilot with autopilot in lieu of an SIC is irrelevant...if the company has instituted a training program for the SIC and one is qualified under that program, the company also has the option of using the SIC. The autopilot does not need to be nonfunctional in order to log the time.

Thank you...that needed to be said.