Logbook time

[bigD]

Why is THIS lost on some people?

Because many people will try and find any possible excuse to log time in a single pilot airplane.

 

[EatSleepFly]

I log 75+ hours a month in a single pilot airplane. Boy am I screwed.

Oh wait...I am the single pilot.

 

[F16fixer]

FARs!!!!

I would like to thank avbug and Midlife and there are a few other select flightinfo members whos answers you can trust. This forum is yet another example that 99% of pilots think they know the rules, but about 1% actualy understand them. This website is kind of like a soap opera for guys, but if there is one thing that I can say I have learned, it would be to not trust anyone when it comes to the rules. I had an examiner filling me with the same crap about anyone can log SIC on part 91 or 135 flights and so on. A couple of years ago I would have just figured he knew what he was talking about. Funny thing is that now that I UNDERSTAND the rules people always want to argue about them, but nobody wants to grab a FAR/AIM and put it where their mouth is. I think the Moderators or whoever runs this site should compile a list and a copy of rules that deal with sole-manipulator operations and when/why you need a high-performance and high-altitude endorsement and when an SIC is legal. Don't forget logging and acting as PIC as well. Avbug I think you should build it!
These stupid logging time questions come up every week. I've been guilty of it too!!

Just my 2 cents.

 

[bigD]

I log 75+ hours a month in a single pilot airplane. Boy am I screwed.

Oh wait...I am the single pilot.

LOL! Touche!

 

[ackattacker]

I think the Moderators or whoever runs this site should compile a list and a copy of rules that deal with sole-manipulator operations and when/why you need a high-performance and high-altitude endorsement and when an SIC is legal. Don't forget logging and acting as PIC as well. Avbug I think you should build it!
These stupid logging time questions come up every week. I've been guilty of it too!!

Just my 2 cents.

Go to www.propilot.com

It has a definitive discussion of logging time. Whatever your question is, it's in there, and has a very good "FAQ".

Want to log SIC time in any aircraft under 135? Take a 135 checkride then MEL the autopilot. No autopilot, then two pilots are required for IFR.

I used to log SIC in a twin comanche. That's right, two pilots up front two pax in the back... no autopilot installed.

 

[Snakum]

I decided last week that even though I'm not rated for the B200 (no Comm ME), I am going to start logging all the time I am in the aircraft for any reason anyway.

Go get the cooler to refill the beer and ice? .2 Turbine Multi

Opening the little side windows to get a breeze going on the ramp? .3 hours (it takes a while to get thru the narrow isle and into the cockpit cuz I'm getting fat)

Every single minute my big-azz is so much as touching any part of that airplane ... Multi Turbine PIC baby!

And then when I get home after a trip and am practicing something new I learned on the aircraft (like emergency descents, starts, etc.) in my Fly2K B200 simulator I am going to log that as PIC too because unlike MS Flight Sim, Fly2K duplicates all the King Air systems and I can actually run thru the checklists I use in the real aircraft. Turbine Multi PIC Baby! Before I know it, I'll be ready for the ATP and that corporate turbo prop interview in CLE!

And the first one of you $h!t-house lawyers dares make on single peep about it, or quotes one single stoopid regulation, or narcs me out to the boss ... well ... I'm going to come to your house and kick your dog! I swear to God I will. I'll do it, too! I'm #$@%ing crazy, man!

Crazy Minh

 

[100LL... Again!]

Sadly, I know of a few folks who actually took that approach to filling out their logbooks. And were willing to tell others that they did.

 

[100LL... Again!]

I think the feds need to rewrite 61.51 to clarify this issue.

Personally, I woud like to see this time become loggable. It is absurd that an MEL'd autopilot makes the ifference between logging and not logging.

I realize that the current reg has it's good and bad points, but the reg seems to be very inconsistent in what is permitted.

 

[midlifeflyer]

Go to www.propilot.com

I'll second the nomination. I have a logging FAQ on my web site, but it's pretty much limited to Part 91 issues. Never expanded it into the 135 SIC issues. Doc, on the other hand, seems to have been exposed to the rules on just about any issue you can think of. It where I go when I have a reg question that I can't put into context.

 

[AZ Typed]

Want to log SIC time in any aircraft under 135? Take a 135 checkride then MEL the autopilot. No autopilot, then two pilots are required for IFR.
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So in a 2-pilot certified aircraft flying 135 charter with the autopilot on (Lear, Gulfstream, Challenger): the FO cannot log SIC?