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Ditto

Big Duke Six said:
I"ll second the "adjusting entry" advice. I had to make several getting ready for my interview at F9. It all came out very neat and tidy. Too bad they never asked to see my logbooks...

Just put it down like this "Correction for dates xx/xx/xx thru xx/xx/xx, SIC erroneously logged as PIC" or whatever. Definitely err on the side of caution here - if they decide to give you credit for something then fine, but its not good to claim any time that's not 100% inarguable.


Same here, I just put an entry listed as an 'audit' with the details and te corrected numbers in the apropriate columns.
 
I'm one of the believers in a nice tidy logbook. I beleive in one color, ink only... no pencil, and if there is an error, draw the single line through the offending number and correct it with a one line entry on the current working page.

The people that interview you will use your logbook as a representation of the kind of work you do. If they see 2 different colors of ink, pencil, and a ton of white out, it shows a track history that is indicative of how you will complete company work.

Neat and clean, the occosional correction that shows you audit your work and are not afraid to correct mistakes is the way to go.
 
RJones said:
If you only have 2200 hours total time, now is the time to convert to a computer logbook. The presentation doesn't have white-out.

Blue vs. Black ink... flying along a couple of months ago and used a blue ink pen for the aircraft logbook. The captain freaked out and said it has to be black. I was stunned... looked it up in the FOM and showed him that blue or black ink was ok for A/C logbook's. For crying out loud, who cares what color ink, just as long as it logged.

RJ

My former company, a large 135 op, required all documents/paperwork to be done in blue ink. I never really heard a good explaination why. I think the military requires that everything be written in black ink.
 
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J32driver said:
The people that interview you will use your logbook as a representation of the kind of work you do.

Hmm....now that I think about it....my flying is pretty sloppy too. I tend to rush through my logbook just like I rush out the office at quitin time! Maybe they're on to something! :)

No, but seriously, its kinda funny how easy it is to tell what kind of pilot someone is from their actions and behaviors. Blue vs. Black ink sticklers, uniform Nazis, guys with 10 aviation bumper stickers on their car, and those cool cats that have to tell everyone that they're a pilot within 30 seconds of meeting them.

Aaahhh...aviation...
 
I'm considered by those at work to have OCD...never been diagnosed but...they think I have it.

All logbook entries in black ink except the totals at the bottom. I usually recommend for students to do them in pencil since they will add wrong. With the electronic logbook software, it's easy to get it added for ya so I do mine in black ink...but thats because I don't have to do any work to add them up.

Does it really matter? Probably not. Just do it as neat as possible and always know why you put lines through things, re-log, etc.

-mini
 
A Squared said:
You must have missed that day in law school
They didn't have copy machines when I was in law school.

On thee other hand, some advocate signing in blue so there's no question that it is an original signed document, rather than a copy of a signed document, which might have been altered during the copying process.
Of course, when color copy machines become the standard...
 
erj-145mech said:
When you went to law school, papyrus was becoming popular.......

Dang, you beat me to it!
 
I don't know about not being allowed, but I saw this one girls log book and it look like a blizzard inside! She must have used a case of white in it.

That's not the worst part. She was blonde, and it was a computer logbook...
 
J32driver said:
I'm one of the believers in a nice tidy logbook. I beleive in one color, ink only... no pencil, and if there is an error, draw the single line through the offending number and correct it with a one line entry on the current working page.

The people that interview you will use your logbook as a representation of the kind of work you do. If they see 2 different colors of ink, pencil, and a ton of white out, it shows a track history that is indicative of how you will complete company work.

Neat and clean, the occosional correction that shows you audit your work and are not afraid to correct mistakes is the way to go.

"occosional" I'm one of the believers in a nice tidy post (aviation dork)
 
Going through training I was always told to make my 8710 forms as neat as can be and to type them up only. Then as a CFI I started using the computer 8710 forms. Recently I renewed my CFI at the FSDO and filled out the 8710 AND signed my temp CFI certificate with green ink. The fed said it was fine- it was the only pen he had available. Green ink! I guess the line stops at crayons? I was tempted to ask...

I had typed my 8710 out but forgot to print the back on it (I had two separate pages but I forgot it has to be on one sheet). That's why I had to redo it... haven't touched an 8710 in a couple years before that.
 
=w= said:
Recently I renewed my CFI at the FSDO and filled out the 8710 AND signed my temp CFI certificate with green ink. The fed said it was fine- it was the only pen he had available. Green ink!
Sure, why not? The goal is to have writing that is legible, permenant and not easily altered. Green ink does that.
 
i also do the entries in pen and the totals in pencil. no big deal. i had been asked in an interview once why i did that. i just told them why and that was that. i make adding mistakes and its easier to make corrections, entries are in pen (permanent) and the book doesnt look sloppy. not that my getting hired hinged on that, but i was hired.
 

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