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Lighters BANNED beyond security!
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rcbullock
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Gentlemen and ladies, to beat the system you have to be smarter than the system.
http://consumerpay.com/wp/store9/9999-1927/prwp01-lighter.htm
Of course, with Barn runnin' the show and Andy out of town in Raleigh, they'll want to take these too, "just to be safe".
http://consumerpay.com/wp/store9/9999-1927/prwp01-lighter.htm
Of course, with Barn runnin' the show and Andy out of town in Raleigh, they'll want to take these too, "just to be safe".
ATRedneck
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Maybe we could all start carrying magnifying glasses.
It'd be a beeyotch to light up a smoke with a magnifying glass on a cloudy day though. Or at night. On second thought, screw it.
Banning a source of fire is stupid. Hasn't anybody been watching Lost? Alive? Cast Away? And especially now that flares aren't required, we gotta do something. Maybe the government will let everybody carry guns so that if you wind up in the wilderness you could go ahead and kill yourself before a friggin' bear gets you. Brilliant.
It'd be a beeyotch to light up a smoke with a magnifying glass on a cloudy day though. Or at night. On second thought, screw it.
Banning a source of fire is stupid. Hasn't anybody been watching Lost? Alive? Cast Away? And especially now that flares aren't required, we gotta do something. Maybe the government will let everybody carry guns so that if you wind up in the wilderness you could go ahead and kill yourself before a friggin' bear gets you. Brilliant.
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OPECJet said:
Perfect! That is so funny because it is so true. I'm sure all of those jokers have lighters beyond security.
Like how they all set off the metal detectors when they walk through them. I remember in the contract security days if one of them set it off they would have to go back and try again. Nowadays nothing. Anyone know why the change?
dalegribble
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rcbullock said:
Great product, I actually have one and love it but: according to the dumb tsa:
"All lighters will be banned from sterile areas beyond security checkpoints at airports. This includes, for example, butane, absorbed-fuel (Zippo-type), electric/battery-powered and novelty lighters.
This is totally a smoking thing from congress
Ill Mitch said:
When was that?
Nailclippers were banned in carry on bags for a short time after 9/11. Maybe a month or two?
9/11 shutdown the airtransportation system for almost three days. The initial goal was to get the airplanes flying again as quickly as possible. To meet that goal the FAA, this was before the TSA was created, created new rules and procedures with a very broad brush. Once the airplanes were flying again they sent the next 12 to 18 months going back through the entire system and rationalizing the rules and procedures. That process continues today with the testing of the new walk-through explosive detectors being one of the latest examples. The nail clipper ban was recinded very early on in the process.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah...the contract wand monkeys were doing just as good a job prior to 911. Now we have essentially the same but twice the pay, no accountability, and pretty white uniforms.
Not to mention that the 911 hijackers pulled this off with stuff that was completely legal to take through security at the time. The government chose to blame contract security when it really wasn't their fault. Now we have a system of government showmanship and waste which raises fares and annoys crews and passengers.
Bring back the contract wand people with some federal overisght and lose the glamorous pay scales and we will have some progress and it won't be such a burden on the consumer or the tax payer.
The big threat right now is shoulder fired rockets and what prey tell is TSA doing about them.
just my 2 cents
Not to mention that the 911 hijackers pulled this off with stuff that was completely legal to take through security at the time. The government chose to blame contract security when it really wasn't their fault. Now we have a system of government showmanship and waste which raises fares and annoys crews and passengers.
Bring back the contract wand people with some federal overisght and lose the glamorous pay scales and we will have some progress and it won't be such a burden on the consumer or the tax payer.
The big threat right now is shoulder fired rockets and what prey tell is TSA doing about them.
just my 2 cents
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TSA drops education as pre-employment requirement
My roomate just told me the other day that the TSA just dropped the HS diploma/GED pre-employment requirement. I mean these idiots couldn't find a tray of cookies at a bake sale already and now they don't even have to complete high school to get a better paying job than I have.
My roomate just told me the other day that the TSA just dropped the HS diploma/GED pre-employment requirement. I mean these idiots couldn't find a tray of cookies at a bake sale already and now they don't even have to complete high school to get a better paying job than I have.
walshsfly
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strike anywhere matches are already verboten by der flugen gestapo.
How exactly is punishing uniformed crewmembers at the checkpoint going to stop the likes of FedEx and EA 990. If there really is a crewmember out in the NAS that is he!! bent on destroying other people do you really think the groping given them by our "High School dropout elite" is going to stop them or change a (beaver builds a?) thing
Point is, we are entrusted with immense responsibilities, treated like criminals, and paid like trench diggers.
This doesn't even address the hundreds of thousands of ramp and customer service agents that have unfettered access to the aircraft at any given time. These people are not screened yet pilots are subjected to this garbage on a daily basis and let me tell you it gets really...really...really...friggin old.
How exactly is punishing uniformed crewmembers at the checkpoint going to stop the likes of FedEx and EA 990. If there really is a crewmember out in the NAS that is he!! bent on destroying other people do you really think the groping given them by our "High School dropout elite" is going to stop them or change a (beaver builds a?) thing
Point is, we are entrusted with immense responsibilities, treated like criminals, and paid like trench diggers.
This doesn't even address the hundreds of thousands of ramp and customer service agents that have unfettered access to the aircraft at any given time. These people are not screened yet pilots are subjected to this garbage on a daily basis and let me tell you it gets really...really...really...friggin old.
LJ-ABX your right...good point.
I guess I am a little bitter about the whole thing. One of the TSA screeners borrowed money from me a while ago and never paid it back. She makes twice what I do now and acts like she doesn't owe me anything. GED, lousy credit, and smokes dope yet our government gave her a job that makes twice as much as me. Maybe I should just go to work for the TSA.
I'll just simmer down now...and AviatorTx...I don't smoke...but I will STFU now.
I guess I am a little bitter about the whole thing. One of the TSA screeners borrowed money from me a while ago and never paid it back. She makes twice what I do now and acts like she doesn't owe me anything. GED, lousy credit, and smokes dope yet our government gave her a job that makes twice as much as me. Maybe I should just go to work for the TSA.
I'll just simmer down now...and AviatorTx...I don't smoke...but I will STFU now.
JD2003 said:
I certainly understand your frustration but what are you going to do? I guess we could all sign up for the FFDO program so that we could bypass screening...
Similarly, it's hard to justify lighters in the cabin when the absense of a lighter was likely the difference that saved the AAL flight from Richard Reid's attempted bombing. He had trouble lighting the fuses on his shoe-bombs with the match and the smell of the matches alerted the flight attendants and nearby passengers.
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