Liberal network 1st day report...

[Spinn555]

Have any of you read "BIAS" by Bernard Goldberg?

(Regnery Publishing, Inc. 2002)

I had the pleasure of reading his book, and listening to him speak on the topic. Now, if you want to talk to someone that was deep into print and broadcast media, here's the guy.


NO, Dammit! He's not a conservative hack! In fact, he's never even voted Republican.

I recommend everyone pick this one up for their next 3-day trip and report back.

I believe there were some posts on here awhile back regarding this publication.

Both sides, please, open your minds and read this one.

 

[mar]

Another meaningless discussion?

<yawn>

Does anyone realize CBS is owned by General Electric?

You Repubs probably think CBS news has been taken over by the Commies.

One day, when you wake up and realize that the news is *just* another form of MARKETING then you'll get up, unplug your TV, take it out back and unload your Smith & Wesson.

It makes a very nice target.

<snaps fingers> [Hello?] <waves hand in front of face>
[Hello?]

 

[merikeyegro]

If you don't like the liberal radio show, turn if off. Also, if you think it's a non-starter, just think about what Limbaugh has to say. He talks about welfare recipients being degenerates, blacks only improving their lots in life due to affirmative action, thinks drug addicts are burdens on the wealthy, thinks Reagan was the greatest thing since sliced bread, and that tax cuts are the answer for ALL economic ills.

Now, Reagan was a good guy, but the rest of that is just ideological rhetoric. People in this country have the right to their opinions. I actually like the programming on Air America. I heard it for the first time this morning and heard parts of "Morning Sedition" and "Unfiltered." Thought they had good guests, talked about some important $hit, and even interviewed Pat Buchanan. Strange for a liberal talk show, but Buchanan isn't much of a fan of Bush, so I get it. Nonetheless, Buchanan is very conservative in the true sense (small gov't, non-interventionist, low taxes), which Bush is not. However, good luck getting a true liberal (such as Michael Moore) on Limbaugh or Fox News. They don't interview opposing viewpoints.

Bottom line: if you don't like it, don't listen. However, just because they are spewing liberal ideas doesn't mean it won't make it. Limbaugh spews conservative ideas all the time, many of which are idiotic, and he's been on the air for 20 years. Most of this country shares at least some liberal viewpoints (including myself) and are tired of Hannity and Limbaugh.

It's time for an alternative. I'm glad they're here. If you want to listen on streaming audio, go to www.airamericaradio.com. The feed is good and the show actually kinda cool. I haven't heard Franken's yet, but the others are pretty solid. Have fun...

 

[incubus]

Some of these posts are way too long. But then again when you idolize limbaugh, oreilly, and hannity all you know how to do is talk incessantly longer and louder than anyone else. Since we can't get loud on message boards the next best thing is to put up a 2000 word limbaugh-esque essay. It's the elite media's fault.

 

[norskman2]

Rush goes after the politicians themselves, with "FACTS".

Thanks, 100LL. That's the funniest one I've heard yet!

 

[Birdstrike]

From TB ".....the mainstream radio media is replete with arch-conservatives. It's good to know that someone--anyone--is trying to level the field somewhat...."
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Between the legacy networks and NPR with its "All Things To The Left Considered", I'd say the field is still tilted to the left.

 

[Chas]

Newsworthy??

an example of what I heard on Air America :

" President Bush got that idea( about job losses from 911) out of his butt"


Now that is classy valuable stuff isn't it?. I bet Osama and the other scum are yucking it up hearing this trash . I am listening to Air america again today and looking for something vlauable or even intellectually stimulating and so far Zip .

Oh I gotta leave Madame Hillary is gonna be on !! ..
chas

 

[Typhoon1244]

...and NPR with its "All Things To The Left Considered..."

All Things Considered is quite possibly the only unbiased news program on the radio today. Are you sure you've actually heard the show? All of it, not one isolated segment you didn't like?

 

[sqwkvfr]

All Things Considered is quite possibly the only unbiased news program on the radio today. Are you sure you've actually heard the show? All of it, not one isolated segment you didn't like?

Hold on there a second, I've heard a LOT of leftist garbage on that show....some of it made my jaw drop....they have a really good audio archive on npr's website....I'm gonna try to link on a particular story that really stands out if I can find it.

 

[sqwkvfr]

I found it....I was driving in my car when I heard it....I could not believe what I was hearing.....listen to this and tell me that this show doesn't have a leftist agenda.

Also, note the date.

Linkus

 

[norskman2]

I LOVE those who claim the media (and especially NPR) are biased to the left. I just listened to NPR's Fresh Air doing a ONE- HOUR interview with Karen Hughes!

 

[TWA Dude]

In case it isn't obvious to everyone, ALL news has a slant, bias, agenda, or viewpoint. It isn't always a strong one but it's there.

Funny how the only time media as a whole isn't accused of being liberal is in countries where it's controlled by the government. Hmmm...

Dude

 

[Typhoon1244]

I found it....I was driving in my car when I heard it....I could not believe what I was hearing.....listen to this and tell me that this show doesn't have a leftist agenda.

Wow, you found one story about a war protester. You're right: NPR is rotten to the core!

If A.T.C. never interviewed conservatives, you might have a valid point. They do, and you don't.

So why are we arguing about it?

 

[bart]

All Things Considered is quite possibly the only unbiased news program on the radio today.

OK, no more Kool Aid for Typhoon.

Please tell us that was your your dry with that came up with that one. If you really believe that, you need to spend a week in Iowa or Wisconsin. One would think you live on the Upper East Side with that statement.

You do need to read Bernie Goldberg's book, especially the part about "they are not bad guys, they think everyone thinks this way, except a few uneducated wackos."

 

[sqwkvfr]

The only thing I'm trying to point out is that the chick in this story is out there by almost anyone's definition of the phrase...and npr saw fit to publicize her message.


Also, this was going on when the "war for oil" kooks were marching in the streets...I think a lot of these types were there to soften the blow for the more mainstream opposition....I mean, anyone left of center is gonna seem like a right-winger when compared to these types....and npr played right into their hands...

Just because npr interviews conservatives doesn't make them balanced...the tone of interviews sets the stage for what the interviewer/show producers are trying to portray. Liberals get far more softball interviews from their willing accomplises in the media than do conservatives...

What the media folks want to portray is decided before a story is put together....it's not a fact gathering mission anymore, and this is where I think the media is failing us. CBS' story on security at general aviation airports was a perfect example.

I thought about this on my way to the Whataburger drive-through to brush up on my Spanish: You could be right about me taking snippets of the program without seeing the big picture of the show into account. I have a hard time listening to npr for more than a couple of minutes before I have to change the station.

It's rare that I miss any "A Prairie Home Companion" installment, however.

Oooooohhhhh hear that 'ole piano from down the avenue!
I smell the __________, I look around for you-hooo!!

 

[Typhoon1244]

You could be right about me taking snippets of the program without seeing the big picture of the show into account. I have a hard time listening to npr for more than a couple of minutes before I have to change the station.

Aha!

Seriously: I applaud you for at least considering that.

Originally posted by bart
Please tell us that was your your dry with that came up with that one.

Yes, and not only that, but all your base am belong to us...

Maybe you should lay off the Kool Aid yourself.

I will admit this: NPR is a lot like ALPA and the various MEC's. Its local affiliates often establish tones that are very different from National Public Radio. KERA in Dallas is pretty middle-of-the-road (with the glaring exception of the Tavis Smiley show...I avoid it), whereas the station I used to listen to in Seattle leaned way left.

I've tried both NPR and Fox News: NPR deserves the label "fair and balanced" far more.

One more thing about the alleged "liberal media." Most of their leadership (as Mar pointed out) is staunchly conservative. They regularly report on the asinine goings-on in the Democratic party. But because they also show that W. doesn't really know what he's doing, you see a liberal slant.

 

[merikeyegro]

First of all just because a station interviews a conservative, it does not mean that it is not liberal. Let's get the straight.

That being said, Franken's show is meant to be satirical. The other shows on the station actually interview people. For instance, I'm currently listening to "Unfiltered" on streaming audio from the site. These guys are actually pretty good. They're interviewing a columnist from www.salon.com about the story concerning the FBI agent blowing the whistle on the FBI and CIA knowing about a hijacking plot in July 2001. They also talk quite a bit about social issues and education. I've not heard much about John Kerry yet, although I'm sure that's coming.

Keep in mind that this network is new, trying out stuff, and is capturing an audience. They are likely going to cash in right away on Bush-bashing, as this is quite a popular activity to dirty, terrorist-loving, French-wine-drinking liberals such as myself. So, just because you like Bush and find it stupid doesn't mean that I don't find bashing the prez hilarious. DON'T LISTEN IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT. Actually, listen a bunch. They'll make more money.

O'Reilly and Hannity outshout their interviewees if they happen to lean left and do it without facts whatsoever. Rush does quite similar stuff. So, don't lecture any of us on "FACTS" here. The right is quite good at spinning and deceiving. The only advantage here is that they have the government at their disposal right now and can spin even classified data to their advantage.

I'm glad Limbaugh and Hannity have a little opposition. I like the shows. I actually found Franken's show to be kinda boring, so I listen to the others. "Unfiltered" is on from 9:00A - 12:00P. I suggest you start there. Good stuff. Have fun...

 

[Typhoon1244]

First of all just because a station interviews a conservative, it does not mean that it is not liberal. Let's get the straight.

Poor wording on my part. Let me put it another way: NPR has no liberal slant. It is belittled by conservatives because it has no conservative slant, either.

DON'T LISTEN IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT.

Amen!

 

[Typhoon1244]

Fellas, I was just sitting down to a plate of leftover BBQ beef when a thought occurred to me: it's just possible that I believe NPR is impartial for the same reason conservatives believe Fox News is "fair and balanced." I like most of what I hear there, so of course I think it's fair!

And speaking of the media...seen the news about CNN's latest foul-up?

 

[N2264J]

Liberal network...

For instance, I'm currently listening to "Unfiltered" on streaming audio from the site.

Do you get it via MX or is it free?

Since I live in the midwest but not near Chicago, I'm trying to find an internet feed.

Are you using Microsoft Media Player or did you download another program to get streaming audio?

Thanks for the help.