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babs said on her web sit (re The Reagans cancellation)

"This is censorship, pure and simple. Well, maybe not all that pure. Censorship never is. Due to their experience with the restrictive English government, the framers of our constitution specifically included a ban on prior restraint in the First Amendment, which is an attempt to stop information from getting out there before the public has a chance to see it at all - exactly what is going on in this case. Of course, CBS as a company has the legal right to make decisions about what they do and do not air. However, these important decisions should be based on artistic integrity rather than an attempt to appease a small group of vocal dissidents. Indeed, today marks a sad day for artistic freedom - one of the most important elements of an open and democratic society."


Why is it not censorship when liberals "boycott" things. When Jesse Jackson blackmails a company?

Actors/Actresses are so full of themselves with this artistic integrity nonsense. BTW Babs, thanks for the history lesson about the first amendment, learned that in 2nd grade.
 
Even James Carville admitted that this isn't censorship at all last night, during his show with Tucker Carlson.

James said that censorship only comes from the government, and the government wasn't involved in the CBS decision. In fact, I was surprised that he admitted that "this is the free market at work". Holy cow!!

Babs had a lot riding on this, with her hubby as Reagan. Take a look at her very telling statement:

"However, these important decisions should be based on artistic integrity rather than an attempt to appease a small group of vocal dissidents. Indeed, today marks a sad day for artistic freedom - one of the most important elements of an open and democratic society."

Artisitic integrity apparently means that you can play fast and loose with the truth in an attempt to assisinate the charater of one of America's most beloved presidents while he is too ill to defend himself. No doubt, this is indeed an important element of her vision of a democratic society, one where facts don't matter, only "feelings".

Babs and her friends, who say that they have cornered the market on compassion, really have a lot of hatred. Hatred for regular Americans who disagree with her.
 
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Babs is pissed because she got caught trying to rewrite history and demonize President Reagan and his family. It was a hatchet job in the worst mean-spirited way, pure and simple. Guess the democrats have to make up fairy tales about Republican presidents so their weak showings in the White House over the last 100 years doesn't look so bad.

The good news is that the democrats didn't slide this one past. Ten years ago, we would have never heard anything about it until it aired. Thank God for the internet.
 
What really pisses me off about these actors and actresses is that they don't seem to understand free speech. I personally don't watch their movies, shows or buy their records if they piss me off. You always hear them complain that if people don't buy their stufff that we are against free speech. Not true, they have the right to say what they want but there is no guarantee that there will be no reprocussions for their statements. There is nothing wrong with boycotting their stuff if they make a statement to the contrary of peoples beliefs. As long as its not a government sanctioned boycott then there is nothing wrong with it. I wish those Hollywood tools would get this. On another note, I'm glad to hear they pulled the Reagan show as it sounded just like a smear job from the Democrats.
 
The good news is that the democrats didn't slide this one past. Ten years ago, we would have never heard anything about it until it aired.
it sounded just like a smear job from the Democrats.

Yep ... it was just a big conspiracy by the left (you just KNOW they're all in this together). :rolleyes:

Minh

(Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they are out to get you ... I guess. :eek: )
 
Snakum said:
Yep ... it was just a big conspiracy by the left (you just KNOW they're all in this together). :rolleyes:

Minh

(Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they are out to get you ... I guess. :eek: )

This can all be traced back to Clinton's immoral presidency, I tell ya!
 
Yep ... it was just a big conspiracy by the left (you just KNOW they're all in this together).

When I was writing for a paper and working the airwaves, we WERE all "in it together".

A lot of people have done surveys of "media" people. Surveys of how many people at papers and networks identify with a definable political leaning. The number of people who describe themselves as being "conservative" is few at many places, and "none" at most shops. More often, they call themselves "moderates", because it sounds better to them than "liberal". If you ask these "moderates" about their beliefs, they come out as being "liberal".

No conspiracy is required when the majority of people who write, approve, and broadcast their views in the media are liberal.

The one factor that moderates this view is the need for selling advertising to remain solvent and profitable. In this case, CBS, a profit making institution had to make a decision that goes against their liberal grain in order to keep the money coming in, a decision that no doubt galls them to no end. I have worked for and know Mr Karmazin, and I can tell you that nothing will stop his pursuit of the dollar, even though he is a dyed in the wool democrat.
 
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At first I didn't know what you guys were talking about when I read the first two posts earlier in the day. Then while at lunch, I read the news article.

Les Moonves...his pulling the plug after realizing what was going to aired, must have took some gonads.
 
I said nothing about a conspiracy of the left. What conspiracy? The democrat's warbling pig was right out front on this one. She was not trying to hide her involvement... until the feces hit the air distribution equipment...

Then the crooning swine cowered and issued statements boohooing censorship and freedom of speech and denying her participation in the creating of the show.
 
liberal hypocrisy

Uh, isn't that redundant? ;)
 
Well it is definitely NOT an oxymoron!:D
 
So much rhetoric..<yawn>..<stretch>...

...so little time...

Liberal Hypocrisy.

Let's look at the facts: Yesterday, every Democrat (with the exception of Byrd) voted to approve Bush's request for $87 Billion (with a 'B').

Also approved was an additional $2 Billion (with another 'B') to Isreal.

One guy voted 'No'. The rest of them, you know them, you love to hate them, Clinton, Schuster, Boxer, Kennedy, ALL of them approved it.

If by 'Liberal' you mean 'Democrat' then yes I agree. Flaming Hypocrites. I would love to see every single one of them voted out.

Why are they all (the Republicrats) raping the American Taxpayer? Who keeps voting for them?

I don't.

Furthermore: Babs don't speak for me.

Does this post confuse anyone? Can anyone look past the D- or R- at the end of a politicos name and actually look into the issue?

THINK!
 
Mar

I'm trying! Really I am!:eek:
 
Let's look at the facts: Yesterday, every Democrat (with the exception of Byrd) voted to approve Bush's request for $87 Billion (with a 'B').

Let's look at that.

How long did it take?

What comments were made during press briefings, intended to make political hay, all during the debate process? Did those comments give aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States?

Did democrat senators opt to go on the record with their vote for the 87 billion, or did they decide on a voice vote that would not personally attach them to the idea of "supporting the president"?

While we are on the subject:

Did members of the security committee create a memo that was intended to depart from their duty to the United States and instead create a political stumbling block to the commander in chief?

Have they confirmed the many federal judge appointments by Bush of blacks and hispanics and women, in affirmation of their espoused views, or have they decided to place a standard on the confirmation of these fine, qualifed applicants that they have NEVER required of their own appointees, such as a super majority? Have they grilled liberal appointees on their views, or did they rubber stamp ALL of the Clinton appointees? Are they guilty of an obstruction of the appointment and confirmation process that has never happened in America?

Advise and consent? Not this bunch. Rhetoric? You're joking, right?

Clearly, they are not interested in equal opportunity. You must first parrot the company line, then, and only then, are you considered to be a "safe" appointee.

I recommend you review the recent comments of Senator Zell Miller if you question my perspective on the party that counted me as a member for 23 years.

And if babs doesn't represent your views, I advise you to complain loudly to the party leadership to turn away from the far left views Howard Dean and Ted Kennedy.

I doubt if anyone will listen, though. To be anyone of importance to the democrats, you must be a limousine liberal. Work hard to separate the masses from their money for your programs, but give up precious little of your own. In this way, people will become beholden to you for their well being, and you can become a leader of a failed socialist movement that discourages the creation of wealth and the striving for personal responsibility. Your success will then be built on the backs of American taxpayers, and you will retain your personal wealth so that you can point to the masses from your ivory tower and say "I know what is best for you".

None for me, thanks.
 
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Midas Jingle

I still miss ol' James doing the Midas commercials. Wish he still did them. Babs could sing the Midas jingle...."when your brakes squeak and your muff is causing noise pollution, get'em fixed at Midas". Yes that's it, she'd be perfect especially if she could do it in a country twang.
 
Aside from the part of the junior doctor on Marcus Welby, MD, I remember James best for the words "Hear that? It could be transmission trouble".

And to think that his talent has gone largely unrecognized...
 
I think that i want the ann coulter doll.
 
Sound and Fury

TB--You shameless spinmeister.

"Life is a story told by a fool full of sound and fury signifying nothing."

So too are American Politics.

This country runs with the single-party efficiency of a junta.

At the risk of being perceived as patronizing (too late, perhaps?) I'd like to explain my post a little better.

I'm not too concerned about press conferences and voice votes. I don't care what project Babs or Bono or Sheen are working on.

I just look at where the money goes. And I look at who signed on. Action speaks louder than words, doesn't it?

So this Lover of Citations starts a thread called "Liberal Hypocrisy" as if hypocrisy is a side-effect of Liberal thinking.

Apparently it's physically impossible for conservatives to be hypocrites...<shrug>.

So I click on this thread and ask myself, "What can I learn here?"

The answer is always, "Nothing new."

Because the rhetoric and the spin are always the same.

I want to hear a Conservative say that Bush is bad for the Republicans in the same way I, as a Liberal, say that Clinton was bad for the Democrats.

I want to hear some dissent!
I want to hear someone call BS!
I want to hear someone speak up for the American Taxpayer and say, "Goddammit! You will no longer co-op American Democracy! You will no longer send our hard-earned money to other third-rate, banana republics on the false premise of liberating the oppressed! That money belongs to us, the American People, FIRST and I will no longer allow the White House and Congress to work outside of the Constitution and the Democratic process.

I want to hear someone speak for me and my family and my friends' families.

I'm really very tired of listening to rationalizers and spinsters and apologists.

Who has the balls? Dean? Clarke? Gephardt? Kennedy? Kerry?

The answer, so far, is a deafening chorus of sound and fury.

It's all shadows cast on a wall. Turn around to discover who's playing with shapes and form.
 
Allright, Mar, I'll take your bait. But not hook, line and sinker.

Bush does have some whacked ideas. His idea of appealing to Americans of mexican descent is sucking up to illegal aliens. Amnesty programs, lax worker visa programs, kissing V. Fox's rear, they're all bad ideas. Almost every American of mexican descent feels the same way about this garbage as you & I do - for the exact same reason! It doesn't help those who currently pull the freight in this country! (them included)

So - he's dead wrong on that issue. Probably does some other junk that makes me mad too. Like signing on for Ted Kennedy's totally communist health care (or was it education - I can't keep them straight) bill in the name of "bipartisanship". How about sticking to "American principles that work" like earning your keep, fee for service, competition, risk vs. reward, etc. etc.

So - dead wrong again. But a hypocrite? I won't sign on to that moniker. He will not forsake his true beliefs in right and wrong for political expediency, at least not as far as I've seen.

What I find genuinely humorous is that everybody seems to have forgotten the disclaimer that is always in the air: except in time of war. Remember all the flailing over the balanced budget issues. Even as far back as Newt Gengrich's Contract With America (that succeeded on 9/10 bills for those who really like the truth) the soundbite on the budget included the exception for war w/regard to deficit spending.

Fast forward to 2003 and the war isn't as interesting as a basketball player banging a white chick in the mountains of Colorado and why ARE we spending 87 billion anyway? Omigod we're going to have a deficit instead of a surplus? What FOR??? No buildings have been knocked over lately so why aren't I getting free pills? Who's biting their lip and feeling my pain? Nobody? Must be time for a change.

I sure hope you aren't sugguesting any of the lobcocks at the end of your post should actually be president, though.
 

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