Legally fine Fat, Smoking, Sick Pilots and FA's

[luckytohaveajob]

http://biz.yahoo.com/bizwk/070802/aug2007db2007081804238.html?.v=1&.pf=insurance



Competitive airlines next form of cost control.

Where was ALPA on this issue? M.I.A. again.

ALPA National needs to start fining Darth Prater for his girth and bad habits.

Fine those fat FA's and get some phat FA's.

And as far as the pilots go, get rid of the fatties. $20,000 fines per month.

Age 65 may pass but there is no reason unhealthy pilots should be allowed to stay.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bizwk/070802/aug2007db2007081804238.html?.v=1&.pf=insurance

 

[luckytohaveajob]

In addition, regulations that became effective July 1 could prompt cautious employers to step off the sidelines. The federal government recently issued final rules on how wellness programs could comply with the nondiscrimination conditions of the Health Insurance Portability & Accountability Act (HIPAA). While the new regulations have been proposed for years, the final rules provide employers with some sense of security and more clarification on how much they can reward or penalize employees based on specific health results.

Welcome to the new America the baby boomers are creating.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

Still, Clarian's approach has already attracted interest. Wantz says it has received calls from several local companies, along with other hospital systems, interested in their approach. "The most common response from other employers," he says, "has been 'thank you.'"

No, thank you.

 

[BigMeat]

Geez get over yourself. Unhealthy pilots are your future job protection. If I want to smoke a cigar while staring at my well define beer gut its my right. Its the American way. You want to live in that regulated of a country then move to China...

 

[HalinTexas]

Yeah, send the healthy, skinny, non-smoking, tea-sipping, non-flatulent types to Gitmo. Leave America to the rest of us!

 

[Draginass]

Remember, when "they" come, they'll eat the fat ones first.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

I don't mind fat smoking pilots. I just mind old ones preventing me from upgrading to Captain.

 

[The Victors]

I think the first post is directed more towards the fat, unhealthy FA's. Which I agree with, but if we do that to them then we need to get on the treadmills ourselves.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

I really don't mind the fat ones. I just want as many off the list as possible with age 65 likely.

Age 65 is opening up an entire new set of issues. And if the geezers think they have the right to stay every other right the company has to eliminate those highly paid geezers should be executed.

Age 65 is opening up a can of whoop a$$. ALPA will not be able to handle the negative effects on the profession age 65 will create.

Health, medicals testing, continuing qualifications, scheduling, pay, pensions, and staffing will all be negatively effected by age 65.

When a company can legally fine an individual for being fat the end is near.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

I think the first post is directed more towards the fat, unhealthy FA's. Which I agree with, but if we do that to them then we need to get on the treadmills ourselves.

The reason I want the fat pilots fined $20,000 per month is to get them to quit.

 

[Victor120]

uke:

 

[AA717driver]

You want me to be healthier? Fine, I'll just require the following:

1.) Layover hotels in safe parts of town so I can go run.

2.) Layovers long enough to work out, recover and then get adequate crew rest.

3.) Layover hotels with fitness centers with the proper equipment that is in working order and safe.

4.) Healthy crew meals designed by a nutritionist specializing in fitness.

5.) A source in the airport for healthy food including fresh foods--prepared on the spot, not preserved. A selection of organic foods and an opportunity to leave the aircraft to get said food. (A BK Chicken Whopper doesn't count in the above description...)

6.) Provide adequate bottled water for both the cockpit and layover for the crew.

7.) Increased per diem to cover the expense of eating healthier.

That's a start. TC

 

[altscap]

After reading all the above quotes I have to wonder, "what happened to getting all the greedy pharma-suits and HMo'mos to stop charging extortion-like prices for common, preventive healthcare and medications?"

Remember the days when you could go to the Doc and have everything taken care of in one visit? If companies want to lower health care costs maybe they should require the medical industry to explain why I can't go to a doctor and have 3-4 issues addressed in just one visit. NNNOOOoooooo, I have to make 3-4 appointments, pay 3-4 co-pays, see 3-4 different medical practitioners, purchase 3-4 prescriptions, etc.. (times 3-4) just get decent health care. This is why health related expenses are through the roof. We are all getting nickle/dimed every time we have more than one issue needing attention. Not to mention time off from work, or burning one of my precious eight days off a month (yes, that's 8 days off a month) sitting in a Dr. office.

Here's how a recent phone conversation went...

me:"hi, I'd like to make an appointment for my annual physical and I also have a Back issue I need to have looked at"

receptionist: "I'm sorry, we have to schedule your physical and any other concerns seperately"

me: "why"

receptionist: "because we have to collect seperate co-pays for each visit"

End of story. If I only visited the doc once for everything I needed to have addressed, the medical industry would only get one co-pay out of me instead of 3-4. And we all know $20 isn't as good as $60-$80.

Of course there's more to it than that, just like our business...