Legal Way to pad logbook

[Movin' on up!]

1200 hours of taking off and landing doesn't give you the experience you would otherwise obtain by doing approaches, actually going to different airports etc. So you have 1200 hours but have the experience of a 300 hours pilot. Doesn't make too much sense.

 

[pilotyip]

regulation

1200 hours of taking off and landing doesn't give you the experience you would otherwise obtain by doing approaches, actually going to different airports etc. So you have 1200 hours but have the experience of a 300 hours pilot. Doesn't make too much sense.

Regulation is about complience, not common sense

 

[Flightdawg]

Regulation is about complience, not common sense

True. Survival is about common sense. OTOH, Movin' on up! has a very good point a 1200 hour pilot with the experience of a 300 hour pilot. It may get him the interview, and maybe even the job, but this could very well bite him in the tail during training. We washed out about 10% of our 300 hour wonders. A washout is a five-year kiss of death for airline employment.

If a pilot has strong study habits, things well on his/her feet and excellent instrument flying skills, then they shouldn't have a problem. If they are weak in any of those areas, they would be better off flying cargo, checks or eyeballs for a year or so to allow those skills to develop. In that case, it isn't the amount of time in the log book that counts, but the amount of experience behind the yoke.

 

[bizjet800]

If I see a resume from a guy with 1200 hours in 30 weeks there won't be much doubt he's a pencil whipper--and probably a poor pilot to boot!

 

[pilotyip]

no pencil whipping here

If I see a resume from a guy with 1200 hours in 30 weeks there won't be much doubt he's a pencil whipper--and probably a poor pilot to boot!

He brings in the log pages from the airplane and shows the Hobbs meter reading that matches the logbook. All FAA legal. In three years when the regionals can not fill their seats because they can not find pilots with 1500 hours, this guy will have head of the line privileges, it is not about safety, it is about compliance.

 

[bizjet800]

He brings in the log pages from the airplane and shows the Hobbs meter reading that matches the logbook. All FAA legal. In three years when the regionals can not fill their seats because they can not find pilots with 1500 hours, this guy will have head of the line privileges, it is not about safety, it is about compliance.

Bring in all the log books you want (and all the transfer orders) but this guy will get laughed out of any real airline interview, or any corporate one for that matter. Does anyone one really think that a few hundred hours of flight time, embedded in 1200 hours of taxi time will really advance their career? I hope this guy chooses his commuter airline well, because he'll be stuck there for a long time!

 

[bizjet800]

Bring in all the log books you want (and all the transfer orders) but this guy will get laughed out of any real airline interview, or any corporate one for that matter. Does anyone one really think that a few hundred hours of flight time, embedded in 1200 hours of taxi time will really advance their career? I hope this guy chooses his commuter airline well, because he'll be stuck there for a long time!

Better yet, this guy should put together a Power Point presentation, then turn it into a movie on how he could solve many of the worlds' problems. For example: global warming, reducing our carbon footprint and greenhouse gasses, all while solving the mythical pilot shortage. And, in today's mantra of every kid gets a trophy, receive a Nobel prize and an Oscar!

 

[Amish RakeFight]

He brings in the log pages from the airplane and shows the Hobbs meter reading that matches the logbook. All FAA legal. In three years when the regionals can not fill their seats because they can not find pilots with 1500 hours, this guy will have head of the line privileges, it is not about safety, it is about compliance.

Well then, do you comply or hire safe pilots? You've spoken at length on the well-rounded 300 hrs guys you've stuck in the DA 20.

Would you hire a person with the logbook you cite as an example?

 

[pilotyip]

my point

Well then, do you comply or hire safe pilots? You've spoken at length on the well-rounded 300 hrs guys you've stuck in the DA 20.

Would you hire a person with the logbook you cite as an example?

flt time does not determine the ability of a pilot, training does, training if properly done can substitue for expereince. Back to my military example 900 hour Aircraft Commanders flying world wide. But we are going to turn flt time into a regulation and limit the ability to hire the right guy. BTW our 300 hour "All ATP" training pilots did a great job. solid IFR skills into busy airports.

 

[cynic]

but it goes back to my convictions that flight time is not the complete 'Breakfast of Champions" as far as who can fly an airplane.

Pilotyip is spot on. One of the most important qualifications would be a college degree. If you don't have one you have no business in a sophisticated aircraft. I think an MS degree should be required!

Kudos to you pilotyip!