Left previous 121 carrier, and would like to return

[Scope out RJ's]

Agreed. I think anyone going into a flying career now, especially low time entry level guys need to set their career expectations at the regional level and think of a mainline job as a outside chance. The hiring wave of the late 90's will probably be the last such wave this profession sees at that level.

Don't forget to thank SWAPA for supporting it, and ALPA for endorsing it!

 

[pilotyip]

What is mainline?

This assumes there is much of a mainline left. The rate at which "regionals" have been growing and mainlines shrinking... I am not holding my breath. Lets hope I'm wrong.

What is mainline? Majors? Nationals? What defines defines a mainline job? Is it defiend by fleet size?, airplane gross weight?, pilotpay? number of employees? or average pounds of fuel burned per flight hour?

 

[HA25]

What is mainline? Majors? Nationals? What defines defines a mainline job? Is it defiend by fleet size?, airplane gross weight?, pilotpay? number of employees? or average pounds of fuel burned per flight hour?

I don't pretend to state this as a definitive answer, but in my opinion, when I think of "mainline" airline job... I think of the companies I aspired to work for as a young pilot in the early 90's.. American (where I am on recall rights status), Delta, United, Continental, and USAir.. Fedex and UPS as well. Not the LCC's or Regional's (what I used to call the commuters).

Just because the DOT says an airline is a "major" doesn't make it major in my book.. History, routes, and tradition plays a role in my view of what makes a "major'.

IMHO, $.02, etc..

 

[pilotyip]

no answer

I don't pretend to state this as a definitive answer, but in my opinion, when I think of "mainline" airline job... I think of the companies I aspired to work for as a young pilot in the early 90's.. American (where I am on recall rights status), Delta, United, Continental, and USAir.. Fedex and UPS as well. Not the LCC's or Regional's (what I used to call the commuters).

Just because the DOT says an airline is a "major" doesn't make it major in my book.. History, routes, and tradition plays a role in my view of what makes a "major'.

IMHO, $.02, etc..

To paraphrase, mainline = major only. Is that what you ment? Or did you mean the big 7 of 1995, AAL, DAL, UAL, USAir, TWA, NWA, and CAL?

 

[Scope out RJ's]

What is mainline? Majors? Nationals? What defines defines a mainline job? Is it defiend by fleet size?, airplane gross weight?, pilotpay? number of employees? or average pounds of fuel burned per flight hour?

Becuase you're as bright as a 10 watt light bulb, just for you:

Definition of a major airline!

Now not all of us blame their pitfalls on society. So I'll save you the 3 page PM like you do all the others and tell you to save your breath, you'll need it later for your inflatable date!

 

[HA25]

To paraphrase, mainline = major only. Is that what you ment? Or did you mean the big 7 of 1995, AAL, DAL, UAL, USAir, TWA, NWA, and CAL?

the latter..

 

[ackattacker]

Assuming that the economy continues a gradual recovery, I think it is absolutely true that we will see a pilot shortage at the regional level. I also expect this to translate into improved wages at the regional level. However that's a bit like being promoted from Assistant to the Regional Manager to Assistant Regional Manager at your local Wal-Mart. Before you see improved wages you will see the return of the guaranteed interview/ pilot pipeline at your local Humpty-Diddle type places. Especially if they can get a waiver of the 1500 hour ATP requirement.

Edit: sorry I realize this is thread drift. To the original poster, you should have no problem getting re-interviewed assuming they are hiring. Expect the obvious questions, have the proper answers.

 

[pilotyip]

hey!

Becuase you're as bright as a 10 watt light bulb, just for you:

Definition of a major airline!

Now not all of us blame their pitfalls on society. So I'll save you the 3 page PM like you do all the others and tell you to save your breath, you'll need it later for your inflatable date!

He said a mainline was not the definition of "Major", so I ask for a definition, and I get name calling, also since we are talking definitions, what is my "your inflatable date"

 

[Scope out RJ's]

He said a mainline was not the definition of "Major", so I ask for a definition, and I get name calling, also since we are talking definitions, what is my "your inflatable date"

I'm sure you can figure that out!

 

[pilotyip]

nope?

I'm sure you can figure that out!

can not figure it out, need help

 

[rumorhasit]

Back to the orginal question, are you eligible for rehire at your previous airline or did you just not show up or go out with guns a blazin? If you are not eligible for rehire then you have a problem.

 

[begsby]

Just call the HR department and ask. I know FI has ALL the answers but please call HR.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

even with raising the mins to fly 121 to an ATP, and improved rest rules as well as the dawn of age 65, there will never be a shortage of pilots. Just a shortage of ones willing to work for $15-25K with little or not prospects of much higher earnings down the line.

But I'm hopeful that I'm wrong.

Look, you can call it whatever you like..."shortage" "lack of people applying" or whatever semantic you want. My point is that the regionals are going to have problems hiring in the next few years. This problem will end up putting one more of them out of business due to lack of ability to staff properly. The fact is that the regionals are the training ground for the majors. That is why people go there first before going to the majors. If regionals experience a shortage, the majors will too, eventually. Hiring managers at Delta are watching the hiring situation of the regionals closely, for instance. They know there is a shortage coming.

And PS, even if you make a career at a regional, you can make a good living. Most 15 year scales top out near or just over $100,000 a year (even more if you are an LCP or instructor). Take a look around you, and you'll see that sum is quite a bit above the national average.

 

[Flyguy2k8]

I definitely left on good terms with my company. Gave 2 weeks notice, and a union rep made sure I was taken out as eligible for rehire.

 

[rumorhasit]

Then you should be okay, now all we need is hiring to begin again. Good luck

 

[Flyguy2k8]

Then you should be okay, now all we need is hiring to begin again. Good luck

Thanks, and yeah hiring would be nice!

 

[begsby]

union rep made sure I was taken out as eligible for rehire.

Why would a union rep be involved with your departure from a regional? hummm..

 

[Flyguy2k8]

Why would a union rep be involved with your departure from a regional? hummm..

Because he is a family friend, who when he heard I was leaving took it upon himself to make sure I was taken out of the system as eligible for rehire.

 

[f9cougar]

You know what makes me mad , Tall dudes . I mean really tall ones ,Like up to 6'2 is ok , That kinda makes me mad, but really tall dudes using up all that airspace.

 

[Flyguy2k8]

You know what makes me mad , Tall dudes . I mean really tall ones ,Like up to 6'2 is ok , That kinda makes me mad, but really tall dudes using up all that airspace.