Leaving Kids/Family while flying

[Hobbs]

FlyGirlFelicia:

PM me. I have a lot of friends with the same dilemma.

 

[fastandlow]

Why even have kids to begin with? My wife and I have a dog and two cats at home and are STRESS FREE!! Can we have kids? (medically) Yes. Do we want them? He!! No. I may be in the minority here, but everytime I see a poor mother at the store, they always seem to be struggling. They always seem so unhappy constantly having to tell them no, put that down, no u can't have that. to me, there is nothing noble about that.

I've seen the damage children can do to a household both emotionally, and physically. Why more people don't want to have a more simple life is beyond me.

Nothing noble?! What a sad perspective. Those on the outside looking in don't understand. Those on the inside looking out can't explain it. In another sense, who's going to be holding your hand or your spouses hand when you die? the nurse or orderly, no one?? What a way to cap off your turn at life on Earth! I don't fault anyone's choice of not having children - actually there are plenty of people on the planet. But having children raises your purpose on this planet to a level way above those who have none. Not judgement, just a fact.

And for those without kids, please don't *ever* compare your dog or cat to my child!

 

[Ravengirl]

Ditto's, English!!!!!!!!!!!

I so strongly support the concept that kids need their parents, that I'd walk away from the cockpit before I'd let my kids spend another day in day care. My step kids were day-care'd and the difference between them and my biological kids is night and day. My oldest daugher was kept in a friends home for three days a week for one year and I can tell the difference between her and her younger sibling who has not ever spent a day away from her mom. Kids without full time mothers are forced to do without God's intended shepard.

Go listen to Dr. Laura for a day or two and read her book entitled "Parentling by Proxie" for some professional insights into the parent child relationships and the damage that absentee parenting does to those relationships, and most importantly does to the emotional development of a child.

God will bless those who sacrifice material things in order to give their children a proper upbringing.

regards,
enigma

BTW, take your kids to Sunday school.

Hoo, boy. Talk about a can of worms Skip this if you don't want to read an essay...

I'm in the distinct minority among my female friends - I'm a conservative kind of girl at heart, both politically and as far as some of my values are concerned. At age 23! In southern California! And while I'm not a strict disciple of Dr. Laura, I do agree with a LOT of what she has to say.

From my own personal experience: My father was, and is, an aerospace engineer who worked a lot of hours. He made great money even just starting out in his career. My mother did not have to work if she did not want to, and I never lacked anything that I required or even just wanted as I was growing up. Hell, the guy gave me my private pilot training as a high school graduation present. But...I saw my dad for maybe a couple of hours a week, total. We've got a better relationship now, but I feel like I've lost a lot of time already.

Different times in my childhood, my mother also worked at the sister my school and I attended. That was great, because she'd take us to school, work, then bring us home. But there was a miserable period of a couple years where she worked another job. My sister and I spent ninety minutes before school each day in daycare, and the same with the three hours after classes were out for the day. I was not a happy kid, my grades suffered, and I honestly wondered why it was that I never got to see my parents. I was thrilled to no end when my mother quit that job. Now that I'm older and we talk about these things, she tells me she regrets doing that and wishes she'd spent more time with my sister and I when we weren't in classes.

I'm (the doctors tell me) almost certainly never going to have my own children. I don't mind so much, because I've never really wanted them anyhow. If I change my mind, there are so many children out there that need good homes, and I don't think I'd have any qualms about doing that. It's just...there are things I want to see and do with my life (ATC is just one!) that are not necessarily conducive to having children at home. Is it a little selfish? Maybe. But I also think I'm being UNselfish in that I would never try to raise any child unless I could be, and wanted to be home with them. I don't see the point of having a kid if you never get to see it. I don't see the point of a woman having a child and going back to work six weeks later. I can see a woman working part-time when the kids hit grade school, but other than that, no. Having a child means you no longer live for you, but for your child, and I see fewer and fewer people doing that anymore. I see my friends struggle with jobs and kids and it just makes me kind of sad for the kids.

Take it for what you will, but remember, you did ask.

Stephanie

 

[LarryinTN]

Do we want them? He!! No.

Well, if you don't want kids then I'd certainly agree that you shouldn't have them. Nothing worse than kids who aren't wanted. It's too bad that more people don't figure that out before they have them.

 

[surplus1]

So according to you, everyone who has kids should both be home "taking care" of this said child 24/7? 365 days a year??? Both parents? Please.

I did not say both parents should be at home 24/7/365. That is obviously impossible. The following is what YOU wrote:

I am definitely not a stay-at-home type and neither is my husband. I can understand being with the kids when they are younger, but who the hell wants to sit around the house all day once they are in school full time?

That tells me that your interest in your personal pleasure is more important to you than sitting around watching your kids. Heaven forbid that you should be "bored" by having to stay at home to take care of a child.

I do not know who you are or what you really think; I don't even care. However, I do read what you write. Therefore, I think that you and your husband should avoid the inconvenience of children that might interfere with your lifestyle, whatever it may be. In fact I don't even think you should own a dog, for it is more than likely to wind up in an animal shelter.

 

[TonyC]

Take it for what you will, but remember, you did ask.

Stephanie

It's hard to get by the piercings and the tats, but ya gotta admit this Stephanie gal is one smart cookie.

 

[PC12Cowboy]

Tony C......................................
OUCH....but SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO true

 

[learflyer]

Nothing noble?! What a sad perspective. Those on the outside looking in don't understand. Those on the inside looking out can't explain it. In another sense, who's going to be holding your hand or your spouses hand when you die? the nurse or orderly, no one?? What a way to cap off your turn at life on Earth! I don't fault anyone's choice of not having children - actually there are plenty of people on the planet. But having children raises your purpose on this planet to a level way above those who have none. Not judgement, just a fact.

And for those without kids, please don't *ever* compare your dog or cat to my child!

There are not just "plenty" of people on this planet...there are "too many"...and this planet can hardly support the ones already here! I'm not sure I buy your "children raising your purpose here on earth" theory...HOW? If you are raising your children to be thoughtful, industrious, respectful citizens of this country AND this planet...then more power to you. However, my personal experience with others children is that most American kids are NOT being raised that way. They are being raised to be self-involved, lazy and disrespectful...that is not good news for anyone...or for this planet!

 

[qmaster3]

And for those without kids, please don't *ever* compare your dog or cat to my child!

We won't. After all dogs don't talk back

 

[Ravengirl]

It's hard to get by the piercings and the tats, but ya gotta admit this Stephanie gal is one smart cookie.

*rolls eyes* Thanks...I have moments of clarity every now and again

 

[fastandlow]

We won't. After all dogs don't talk back

There's a lot to be said for that, too!! They all have their place. and my dog's is in the back yard.

I'm not sure I buy your "children raising your purpose here on earth" theory...HOW?

One simple and major one - what child will be without a parent if you were abducted by aliens or hit by a bus tonite? Let's just agree that some people are just not cut out for kids. And PLEASE don't have a problem with it and try to force the issue - get a vasectomy or your tubes tied. The V is no big deal (after the novacane) and is covered by many insurance plans... just think of the load off your mind.

Happy New Year to everyone...

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Why even have kids to begin with? My wife and I have a dog and two cats at home and are STRESS FREE!! Can we have kids? (medically) Yes. Do we want them? He!! No. I may be in the minority here, but everytime I see a poor mother at the store, they always seem to be struggling. They always seem so unhappy constantly having to tell them no, put that down, no u can't have that. to me, there is nothing noble about that.

I've seen the damage children can do to a household both emotionally, and physically. Why more people don't want to have a more simple life is beyond me.

why in the world would you EVER get married if you didn't want a family?? someone to feed the dog and cat while you fly??

I've seen the damage children can do to a household both emotionally, and physically. Why more people don't want to have a more simple life is beyond me.[/QUOTE]

whoa...damage children do to a household???
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[WhiteCloud]

It's hard to get by the piercings and the tats, but ya gotta admit this Stephanie gal is one smart cookie.

I'll agree with that. Great post Stephanie. If I were half my age and single we'd be talking.

 

[Ravengirl]

I'll agree with that. Great post Stephanie. If I were half my age and single we'd be talking.

Don't forget the other half of the equation - if I were single, too

 

[PropsForward]

whoa...damage children do to a household???
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Yepp. Crayola on the wall, Snack in the VCR/DVD, cheese-it's in the oscillating fan. Oh the joys. I have 3yr old twins and "partners in crime" takes on a whole new meaning.