Leaving B6

[FlyAuburn]

JRod
You are absolutly right. B6 should be just like all the rest of the airlines and simply require you to resign before showing up for class. As far as leaving for Kaletta that is total flame because I dont think anyone would be that stupid
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Actually Speedbird, it is true. He's a friend of mine and he did leave. He's a good guy and I'm sure he had his reasons. Good luck to him and too bad he was junior to me.

:beer:

 

[johnsonrod]

JRod
You are absolutly right. B6 should be just like all the rest of the airlines and simply require you to resign before showing up for class. As far as leaving for Kaletta that is total flame because I dont think anyone would be that stupid
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Not everyone wants to fly a Bus (or have it fly them) around the US for the rest of their career. Some people want to see the world and fly the venerable whale - sounds like a great experience. Will he be able to handle those long 17-day tours and the jet lag associated with long-haul travel - who knows? Some people might and good for him for trying if he is young enough (sounds like it) and he doesn't have much to lose. Better to do that than regret never making that jump for the rest of your long career... At least he'll have some good stories to tell.

 

[g159av8tor]

Better to do that than regret never making that jump for the rest of your long career... At least he'll have some good stories to tell.

Ditto that. And He'll be ablt to answer all those "tell me about a time" scenario questions at his next interview. I admire the guy's courage to have an experience in life...tailwinds.

 

[PCL_128]

Kalitta (along with Cathay) has turned into the UPS training ground. Doesn't seem like such a bad decision to me.

 

[da90drivr]

What was his hire date?

 

[Vastly Underemp]

F-16 and Mr. Murdoch touched on the subject: all the rest of the majors do have a no-compete clause, they just call it something different and permanent. They all make you resign your seniority number from your previous carrier before allowing you to begin training. That is even more restrictive than a non-compete clause.

And let me add my voice to the chorus: if you don't like it, don't apply.

 

[On Your Six]

F-16 and Mr. Murdoch touched on the subject: all the rest of the majors do have a no-compete clause, they just call it something different and permanent. They all make you resign your seniority number from your previous carrier before allowing you to begin training. That is even more restrictive than a non-compete clause.

And let me add my voice to the chorus: if you don't like it, don't apply.

It's still a lame policy - an outlier regardless of what you call it. Most pilots other than furloughees would resign their seniority numbers anyway if they were under the impression that Jet Blue was going to be their final stop. But what if JB turns out to not be the wonderful employer everyone portrays it to be. Sometimes people make the wrong choices. Are you saying they can't now return to their previous employer if they felt they made a mistake? You can if you work for SWA, DAL, CAL, Spirit, Alaska, Hawaiian, USAirways, etc., etc. I am not saying one should return to a regional but it happens.

Furloughees not resigning their seniority numbers is a completely separate issue. ASA didn't force DAL furloughees to resign their numbers either. Jet Blue benefitted from having experienced furloughees from DAL and USAirways populating their flightdecks - don't forget that. This non-compete policy is an outlier and a bit restrictive in this vagabond business.

Sure, pilots who don't like it shouldn't apply - that's an easy thing to say. Let's hope that eligible pilots who have other options are listening...

 

[Booster]

According to the Pilot Agreement JB pilot signs, s/he cannot go back to the airline you left to come to JB for 2 years. After that you are free to go back if you see it as a better deal.

 

[On Your Six]

According to the Pilot Agreement JB pilot signs, s/he cannot go back to the airline you left to come to JB for 2 years. After that you are free to go back if you see it as a better deal.

And your point? JB is the only airline that does that - why? I don't care if they don't ask furloughees to give up their seniority numbers. Different situation. We are talking about a restrictive policy that is very unnecessary. This ain't consulting or financial services where access to sensitive data would make you dangerous to the business - we are talking about line pilots. Two years is a long time if you feel you made a mistake.

No wonder JB pilots are leaving for SWA, DAL, CAL, UPS and others - they pay more and they are less oppressive. Just admit it, this policy is an outlier in the business and simply not necessary. Why prevent someone from returning to a previous carrier if that move would make them happier? Do you want them to stew and be pissed? If we were talking about part 135 flying and typical training bonds that would be one thing, but this non-compete policy is an anomoly for pilots in the airline business.

It's just odd that a "progressive" airline like JB would have one of these restrictive policies...

 

[Puck Mugger]

And your point? JB is the only airline that does that - why? I don't care if they don't ask furloughees to give up their seniority numbers. Different situation. We are talking about a restrictive policy that is very unnecessary. This ain't consulting or financial services where access to sensitive data would make you dangerous to the business - we are talking about line pilots. Two years is a long time if you feel you made a mistake.

No wonder JB pilots are leaving for SWA, DAL, CAL, UPS and others - they pay more and they are less oppressive. Just admit it, this policy is an outlier in the business and simply not necessary. Why prevent someone from returning to a previous carrier if that move would make them happier? Do you want them to stew and be pissed? If we were talking about part 135 flying and typical training bonds that would be one thing, but this non-compete policy is an anomoly for pilots in the airline business.

It's just odd that a "progressive" airline like JB would have one of these restrictive policies...

So....long story short....I guess you won't be applying.