Leaving B6

[Headfake14]

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[FreightGod]

No problem, I was at JB for 18 months, just resigned to go to Kalitta Air!!

You will be kicking your own arse in a year or two...

 

[johnsonrod]

You will be kicking your own arse in a year or two...

To each his own. Maybe he wants to see the world and fly the whale... Maybe he doesn't have familial commitments like other pilots and he can do that type of travel. Maybe he didn't care for JetBlue - you never know...

 

[FreightGod]

To each his own. Maybe he wants to see the world and fly the whale... Maybe he doesn't have familial commitments like other pilots and he can do that type of travel. Maybe he didn't care for JetBlue - you never know...

Yeah true enough.

It's just that my first job on jets 20 years ago was flying the whale and seeing the world. It was cool, plenty of parties and girls and fancy hotels, but also jet-lag, violent vomit and diarhea (India) old and tired airplanes, low pay, long hours, etc....

A small plane and a good company is just as good if ya value off-days and clean flying.
Since then I have been with majors and scum-bags, back and forth.
Tired of the problems, would rather stay with a reasonable good gig like JetBlue, especially with 18 months of the property.

To each his own however..Some guys thrive over at Connie, some hate it.

 

[savin47]

I believe he just cut off his nose to spite his face, right in front of everyone.

 

[GogglesPisano]

Yeah true enough.

It's just that my first job on jets 20 years ago was flying the whale and seeing the world. It was cool, plenty of parties and girls and fancy hotels, but also jet-lag, violent vomit and diarhea (India) old and tired airplanes, low pay, long hours, etc....

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Flying for a non-sched hasn't changed much in 20 years. It's amazing how old it can get so fast.

 

[FreightGod]

Flying for a non-sched hasn't changed much in 20 years. It's amazing how old it can get so fast.
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Yeah, it can get old fast. On the other hand, some guys really thrive on it.


When I started there was no Atlas or Polar, or Connie with 747s..(DC-8s, yes) Non-sched was Electras for the casinos and DC-9s for the Postal Service.

The non-sched has always been good...OR bad for the wild guys.
As I get older, I am less wild.

Being a single guy, non sched is great.

 

[Draginass]

It depends on the non-sked. There's a range of quality that runs from "scum-bag 747 freight outfit" (calling them a "company" would be too generous), with bad maintenance, bad scheduling, bad management, bad dispatch, etc etc, to some that actually have work rules, a contract, and actually maintain their aircraft.

Unless you like 24 hour duty days, pencil-whipped maintenance, crappy flight support, and management that will smile in your face and put the knife in your back, you'd better do your homework before you accept a job with one of these dirtbag outfits.

 

[Whiskerbizkit]

Hey, hes senior to me so, enjoy your new career!

 

[flyin4jsus]

With you signing the 5 yr contract. Is it anything dealing with, like say they get in a really hardship. They have 20yr pilots and need to cut costs and your contract comes up can they just get rid of you?

 

[1Speedbird]

I believe most other airlines make you resign your previous job before they will train you, so the non-compete clause is actually better for furloughees.

Thank you for pointing this out! It is a better option since it is actually an option.

 

[Beechnut]

With you signing the 5 yr contract. Is it anything dealing with, like say they get in a really hardship. They have 20yr pilots and need to cut costs and your contract comes up can they just get rid of you?

Consider the consequences for the company in doing that:

1.) If the the pilots are not unionized 13 years from now, they would have a union about 30 seconds after that 20 year guy was released.

2.) If the pilots are unionized, then that wouldn't happen because you would have a CBA instead of individual contracts.

Either way, it wouldn't be in the Company's overall best interest to fire long term employees.

S.

 

[GuppyPuppy]

Red flag alert. If JetBlue is such a great airline, why have a non-compete clause at all? People shouldn't be leaving such a great airline - right? I understand recouping training costs, but a non-compete clause? This isn't consulting... Is that common at other airlines? I just don't know.

That is lame to fence someone in if they really want to leave and return to a former airline. Do you want them to stay and be negative?

Well, how many other airlines REQUIRE your to resign your seniority at a previous company?

JB didn't make me resign mine.

GP

 

[GuppyPuppy]

Doh!

Double post.

GP

 

[ultrarunner]

Just curious...if JB terminates you, are you obligated by the terms of the non-compete clause, or does the contract only protect the employer?

 

[johnsonrod]

Well, how many other airlines REQUIRE your to resign your seniority at a previous company?

JB didn't make me resign mine.

GP

ASA allowed Delta furloughees to work there (unlike Comair) until they were recalled. Great diversion question. Why call attention to this when nobody is answering the following question:

If JetBlue is so great and confident about retaining newhires, why have a non-compete at all?

No other carrier requires non-competes - that says it all. Just seems a little odd.

 

[B6Driver]

If you're all that worried, just don't apply.
See how simple it is.................

 

[sligo1]

I agree

If your so worried then just don't apply and save me the job.

 

[dudemize]

The non compete is really not a big deal at all. When JetBlue was just starting out there was a lot of furloughed pilots on the street. Their policy from the beginning was that they would not require furloughees to resign from their previous carriers. However, the non compete was placed in the contract to ensure that JB at least got their money's worth for all the training costs.

It seems to me the fact that JetBlue did not require them to resign actually shows the confidence they have in their airline, not vice versa.

 

[1Speedbird]

ASA allowed Delta furloughees to work there (unlike Comair) until they were recalled. Great diversion question. Why call attention to this when nobody is answering the following question:

If JetBlue is so great and confident about retaining newhires, why have a non-compete at all?

No other carrier requires non-competes - that says it all. Just seems a little odd.

JRod
You are absolutly right. B6 should be just like all the rest of the airlines and simply require you to resign before showing up for class. As far as leaving for Kaletta that is total flame because I dont think anyone would be that stupid
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