Leave Delta for Jetblue???

[AA717driver]

....those b***ards told me the same thing at OZ in 1986:smash:

fido--They were right. You were a captain within three years... Captain on a King Air. TC

 

[AlbieF15]

2Auburn,

FWIW, I have helped a whole bunch of folks from majors who have gone on to JetBlue. They ranged from a current 12 year UAL Captain (really!) who quit to some Delta folks who were furloughed after being on the line only a few months.

I think most have decided that the upside of a better atmosphere at work and the potential for growth, coupled with the prospect of no chance of a recall for a loooong time made the jump worthwhile. However, leaving ANY organization and starting over is a significant emotional event.

One poster said try UPS or FDX. I'm helped folks from majors at both. You give up family passes and (if important to you) walking through terminals and dealing with the public. You get the most stable job in the industry, albeit with some tough flying if you are junior. Commuting to either of those from ATL would be easy.

My gut says JB is a great place to work--but you are on the line (not f-lo'd) at a company where there is a chaotic number of retirements and a rapidly changing structure. I dont' know if you'll get shown the door, but if you look at your paycheck AFTER the lastest givebacks and compare them to starting over at JB on the RJ, you still might be better off staying. Compare your healthcare, etc to the United Healthcare at JB and see what works best for you. Then factor in commuting stress.... If jumping still makes sense--press on and good luck. If the math doesn't work but you really want to leave, I personally think Airtran should be in your crosscheck--if they'll have you. I don't know if/how many ex-Delta they've hired. FDX has taken several guys like you, however, so perhaps you could network in that direction.

War Eagle and good luck in any case.

 

[B6Driver]

Albie15,

What kind of response is that?
If you're going to use all that level headed thought and common sense in answering fellow posters, you'll ruin all the nasty flame baiting to follow.
Then what; cats and dogs living together; I shudder to think.

 

[Melon]

I didn't think the 190 was an "RJ"?

 

[AlbieF15]

Semantics. Compare what you make NOW make at DAL and after the next cuts to what you would make on the (whatever you want to call it) E190 at JB. Then do the math...

 

[wndshr]

Semantics. Compare what you make NOW make at DAL and after the next cuts to what you would make on the (whatever you want to call it) E190 at JB. Then do the math...

just wondering how long will an upgrade take at delta now that their was a whole bunch of retirements. how long to hold 777 FO? will 777 FO or 767 FO pay more than a B6 capt after the cuts? B6 320 CA takes how long if hired today?

 

[klhoard]

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I would also factor in the ability of DALPA getting back the wage concessions in the future with a collective contract vs. individual contracts. . .
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[FlyAuburn]

You can come over and then leave after 2 years if things turn around at DAL. From talking to friends at both places, I don't think you will go back.
BTW, this is one bad "RJ". The HUD is nice. Don't hate because is only 100 seats. Check out the length. War Eagle!

 

[semperfido]

The HUD is nice.!

HUDs are overated

 

[AIR2MUD]

HUDs are overated

No, they're not. I get out of my weekend ride, and hate not having it in the billpayer airplane!

That mean machine you fly should have spoiled you by now, expecially with EVS! Wish I could boresight the TGP on my weekend ride and display it on the HUD like family model Eagle drivers can.

Wishful thinking.

 

[ATRCA]

I didn't think the 190 was an "RJ"?

It is odd that anything made by Embraer is an RJ but NW DC-9s were never considered RJ's even though the EMB-145 goes faster, further and higher.

I never got that one.

 

[Paul R. Smith]

Did you also think that Embraer would come out with a 100+ seat aircraft in 1995-96 and get away with calling it a regional jet. I'm really impressed with how these large RJs were back-doored into this business. "Oh its just a 50 seat rj." "Oh its just a 105 seat rj",..



Those sneaky bastards.

 

[bafanguy]

just wondering how long will an upgrade take at delta now that their was a whole bunch of retirements.

Good question. The SLC CPO put out the following figures:

Pilots age 50-55...999
pilots 55+...236

It won't be long before you're looking at 15+ year upgrades if they aren't there already.

The decision to leave a major isn't something taken lightly. There are still many unknowns, but it won't be too before you can say you've seen DL at its absolute worst and make plans based on that.

Of course, if you can leave and keep the "come back" option open, that's good too.

 

[michael707767]

Did you also think that Embraer would come out with a 100+ seat aircraft in 1995-96 and get away with calling it a regional jet. I'm really impressed with how these large RJs were back-doored into this business. "Oh its just a 50 seat rj." "Oh its just a 105 seat rj",..
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pretty smart marketing if you ask me. Not only have they built something to comply with scope clauses every step of the way, they actually built something a little bigger. Scope is 70 seats, ok lets build a 70 seat RJ with a 90 seat version. Now the pressure is on to allow the regionals to fly the 90 seater cause its the same type. Scope 90 seats, ok lets build a 85 seater, with a 100 to 120 seat version (the EBM-175, up to 86 seats, and 190/195 up to 118 seats). Next you will see some airlines cave on 100 seat scope, and already we have Bombardier talking about building a jet with 110 and 130 seat versions. And my bet is the press, because its built by Bombardier, will call it an RJ.