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Thank you ALL for your replies! :)

But I believe in retrospect Rick is dead on and I was "dead" wrong in my pre-brief or lack-there-of. I got into a plane with the understanding of CRM but the pilot (PIC) did not acknowledge that or understand this in which it was my mistake in not performing a solid brief as mention by Deadstick. I actually thought of those questions you spoke about...and folks declaring miss may work in a 121/135 operation but it doesn't mean hoot to the PIC in this situation in which I found out real quick! :(

JediNein~ I actually thought you were going to talk about the DPE who took over the controls of an MU-2 from the owner pilot and landed on the water runway at New Iberia, LA - KARA Acadiana Regional (check the airport diagram out). My boss and I where joking about that because the water was “dark-looking” giving it the appearance of a runway. The FBO folks said they had two incidents about an Archer and an MU2 landing in the 5' deep runway 16w/34w. The MU2 story was better than the archer pilot landing at night on it. They said there was good size catfish in the water. :D :D Of course the MU2 was a complete mess I don’t know the outcome although the owner did try to make the FAA pay for it. From my understanding they were just going to land there wasn’t a life-or-death scenario happening at the time. I wonder if the Archer pilot saw frogs eyes just before he flared and wonder what those shiney dots were! :)
 
I will chime in with this..........................................

Don't let the desire to get a thicker log book lead you into a situation like this.......

Because when they bury you with the log book it won't matter how many hours you have gotten ..................................

:rolleyes:
 
ruhroa said:


Don't let the desire to get a thicker log book lead you into a situation like this.......

Because when they bury you with the log book it won't matter how many hours you have gotten ..................................

Now that's deep!
 
My personal take:

I don't fly unless a have a reasonable idea of the quality of maintenance.

I don't fly if the person has a 'reputation' for not listening to CFIs.

I politely make sure that they know I have veto authority for anything I feel is unsafe.

Life is too short and our certificates are too valuable to let some dork and his "1000 hours" in make and model get me violated or injured.

Rule of thumb: The bigger the talk, the worse they fly.


Oh, and JediNein - will you marry me? I'll let you do the flying...
 
StaticWick said:
His bank angles were in the 15-20 deg area tracking 356 course. Then I notice the nose coming up and airspeed dropping about 9-15 kts below Vmc (I called "airspeed a little slow").

You are much more passive than I am. I would be yelling 'my airplane' and telling him exactly what I thought of his flying skills. Vmc? 9-15 kts below Vmc is stall speed. You must mean something else. If you do indeed mean Vmc, you should have taken the plane from him. Also, as soon as I see someone snaking all over the final course, they are far from someone I'd feel comfortable going to minimums with. This guy gave you all the danger signs, and you rode on with a mutter and a look the other way. Please be more careful.
 
StaticWick said:
Thank you ALL for your replies! :)
I wonder if the Archer pilot saw frogs eyes just before he flared and wonder what those shiney dots were! :)

New PAPI system installed perhaps? :)
 

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